efranklin

My friend just offered me a free ls1 engine in perfect condition if i put it in my fd. With a free engine how much will the rest of the conversion cost? Dont flame because im puting a v8 in an fd the engine needs to be redone and i dont have enough money, this seems like a goodalternative. thx-Eric

Terrh

iTrader: (7)

wow, free LS1

I can tell you this... my FD RUNS! and if someone said they'd give me an LS1 in perfect condition if I swapped it in... the doritos would be coming out.


There are many conversion kits available and how much your total cost will be depends on how complete and bolt-in you want the swap to be.

LT-x7

Is it a complete pullout (accessories, wiring, tranny) or just a longblock?
Even with a free complete motor it will cost quite a bit.

lt1_rx7

iTrader: (13)

I've roughly priced the swap because we are going to start saving to do one (me and my g/f into her '94)...

The Hinson Supercar kit runs right around $2k, their radiator is $800. What wiring will u be using? How about transmission? The more you have with the motor, the less money it will cost you to swap. Another consideration is clutch hydraulics. Hinson's makes several of the parts for the swap.

www.hinsonsupercars.com

Hope that helps, feel free to PM me...of course, you could donate the LS1 to me

efranklin

Im not sure what it comes with. We were hanging out today talking about our cars and i told him im going to need a new engine in my fd. He told me that i could have his ls1 engine if i wanted to do the swap. Ill find out tommorow what it comes with. I basicly want to know if it will be cheaper to swap an ls1 in there with a free motor, or to just get my engine rebuilt.

digitalsolo

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If you shop smart, and make the simple stuff, you can do it for about 3500 bucks, with the engine and the car already in your possession. That's assuming a complete LS1 with harness.

KaoticFdR1

Does the LS1 run?...feel like trading?

Terrh

iTrader: (7)

I was thinking the same thing

I'll trade my freshly rebuild (mazda reman) FD longblock for an LS1 longblock in good running order!

paul_3rdgen

iTrader: (6)

It doesn't really matter if you can rebuild your Rotary cheaper then putting the LS1 in beacuse the LS1 will out last your new rotary by a long shot especially at higher horepower levels. Upgrade once and be done with it, GO LSX!!!!!

Terrh

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actually as far as longevity has been going my engine seems to have a pretty good record vs. my friends '07 z06... last count: him: 2 engines.. me: 1 engine

KaoticFdR1

Thats the LS7 those things are kinda sketchy IMHO

rarson

They supposedly were taken to 8500 rpm in testing and did well. Grain of salt, I suppose. Maybe GM went a little too far on the bore, I heard they were planning on bringing the bore back down for future forced induction in the next LS engine.

KaoticFdR1

i heard the Cylinder walls are so thin if damaged they can't be resleeved.

rarson

I don't think that's correct. Darton sells sleeves for the LS7.

KaoticFdR1

you're right....hmmm then i wonder what i was thinking of then?

rarson

Perhaps you're thinking of an overbore? I'm sure than even the slightest scuffing which would normally require a .020" over wouldn't be possible due to the thin sleeves.

shelbyinyoface

I hate it when I see LS1's in the rx7 the only thing you punks have made is a sexy corvette.
You know what the **** you should do , is learn something about the car your driving .
Study hard figure out how to get the power out of the car your driving , in your case a RX7.
Then do what it takes to get the power out of the rotary insted of taking the easy way out
and putting a corvette engine in it...... I hear you ****** LS1 punks talkin so much **** about how the rotary is not reliable. Well **** you in 1991 , a rotary won 24hour le mans race, most people say it is a big thing to complete the race. Winning it is like winning the superbowl hell even better then that.......

Now I've gotta say that the rotary was the first and only japanese car to win at le mans.
24hours of racing = power + reliablity = Rotary

Oh yea the corvette has yet to win the 24 hour race in france they only do well in the american le mans races......

Oh yea in 1991 what car showed it's face the McLaren F1 prototype there 3 cars held 2nd 3rd and 7th
mazda held 1st and 4th . McLaren F1 prototype after they lost the race to mazda said they had alot of problems to work out and came back two years later to win the race....
I'm gonna translate for Mclaren " We didn't think mazda was gonna **** us up like they did.
well you know the rotary was a German design , let mazda know well see them next year "
and the next year hmmmmmm where was Mclaren hmmmhmhmhmmhmhm

24hours of racing ............ only japanese car to win at le mans.... beat the Mclaren F1......
Corvette has never won the 24hour race at le mans ..........

Why don't you dumb LS1 ***** put some time and thought into your cars.......... And if your gonna put a V8 into this beautiful car at least put a good one in it ... like a shelby cobra jet
hell make it at least respectable ........ or wait here's someting even better leave the ******* rotary in it learn how to get all the reliable power of of it . Or don't ****** buy the car

It's about time someone put you **** in your place , that place behind a rotary BITCH!!!!!

to all my rotary heads in the fourm sorry about going off like that but I'm sick and ****** tired of these ls1 bitchs

platinumpresto

its ok... you have a bad pay day too, huna?

gnx7

iTrader: (10)

shelby- you are a f*cking moron

Maybe when you start to make big power and your "built" turbo rotary lasts a few thousand miles between rebuilds you will see the light.

I've had friends use the best engine builders/tuners in the nation multiple times and their 13B turbo setups go boom nonetheless a few thousand miles later.

KaoticFdR1

I believe this is a TOS Violation......also your tired of these LS1's walking you in the twisties and straights aren't you?

DomFD3S

The above is all I heard from you.

"It's about time someone put you ... in your place"

I agree w/ this one statement only (w/ an edit of course)...
Take some time off the forum (one week).
Come back when you are well versed w/ our forum rules and code of conduct.

People can do as they please w/ their own possessions. You may not agree, but ultimately it isn't your property.

rarson

What a great argument. Too bad none of it is based in reality. How many of us have naturally-aspirated P-Port 4-rotors? Yeah, thought so.

Turbo rotaries aren't as easily tuned as piston engines. And that means that there's a lot of incentive to swap to a piston engine (not to take anything away from the awesome rotary engine).

GtoRx7

iTrader: (5)

Wow, just, wow. Oh..... and sad.

Rotary Noob

gotta raise the BS flag on that one. I dont believe it, so explain the circumstances, and I may believe you then. There is no way in hell however, that he has a 2007 z06, because they havent finished making the 06 z06 yet, and the LS7 is a solid motor. Aluminum block, T6 heat treating, same block used in the C6.r, and they can crank it up to 700 NA RWHP at 7200 rpm (7500 redline i believe, but they obviously test it higher) without an issue. So what then is he doing to that motor to break it?

oh and shelbyinyoface, first off, yes the Rotary is a nice engine, but it doesn have its downfalls. AS DOES ANY ENGINE. The LS series motors however are very reliable, respond well to cam, forged internals, intake exhaust, etc. And they are piston motors, meaning more people available to tune them, and more parts available.

Oh, and you say that the Vette has never won the 24 hours of LeMans? Please, tell me what youve been smoking, theyve won FIVE GOD DAMNED YEARS very recently.

Corvette Racing 24 Hours of Le Mans Record:

2001 1st GTS Corvette C5-R Fellows/O'Connell/Pruett
2nd GTS Corvette C5-R Pilgrim/Collins/Freon

That is once...

2002 1st GTS Corvette C5-R Fellows/O'Connell/Gavin
2nd GTS Corvette C5-R Pilgrim/Collins/Freon

Thats twice...

2003 2nd GTS Corvette C5-R Gavin/Collins/Pilgrim
3rd GTS Corvette C5-R Fellows/O'Connell/Freon

Oh lookie there, still number 2 and 3.

2004 1st GTS Corvette C5-R Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen
2nd GTS Corvette C5-R Fellows/O'Connell/Papis

Yet another sweep,

2005 1st GT1 Corvette C6.R Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen
2nd GT1 Corvette C6.R Fellows/O'Connell/Papis

ANOTHER sweep

2006 1st GT1 Corvette C6.R Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen
7th GT1 Corvette C6.R Fellows/O'Connell/Papis

And one of them got jacked the hell up, but lookie there, NUMBER ONE AGAIN.

(Source: Corvetteracing.com The official site of the race team)

Note the number of 1st places in there. Yeah, thats right 5. And how many times did they sweep the top two? Oh, uh, FOUR. So they had two years where one finished in 7th, one in 3rd. But they took first 5 times. Swept 4 of those, but they havent EVER won. Am I missing something here?

Now tell me, (not trying to bash the rotary, just bear with me) how many times did mazda enter a rotary in the LeMans? After 1990 that is? Hmm? Oh, thats right, ONCE. And they won, yes, but in the prototype class, not the GT-1. DICK.

You think the LS motor is so bad? Tell you what, Give me 20k to tune a rotary (20b even), and give me 20k to tune an LS, and we will see what the outcome is. I can tell you right now, that the LS is going to have an assload more torque. Then, gear them the same, in the same car, with the same weight, and see what happens.

You say you hate ignorant people, but you sir, are about as stupid as they come. Does that mean you hate yourself?

Bitchslapper

Obviously "Shelbyinyoface" hasn't owned his 3rd gen very long. I've owned mine for 7 years and have spent more money on repairs than the car. Plus when you add the power + reliability mods it won't even pass smog regulations (CA). I love the body style but once you have to drop a rebuild for $5,000, replace turbos three times, replace vacuum hoses( which it has millions), oil changes every 2,000 miles and all the other nitpicky problems like hard starting,vacumm leaks,always worrying about coolant leeks and temperature,burning oil,and too many other things to lis the v8 seems like less of a headache. Not to mntion 12.5 second 1/4 mile stock runs.
Don't get me wrong the 1st and 2nd gen models (NON TURBO) are decent engines but still have their problems. It sounds like your a kid that is parents bought the car for and doesn't have to worry about paying for repairs, with racing being the only thing he thinks about.
I just hope you bought a warranty for your 94, you'll need it!