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Old 05-01-05, 09:24 PM
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What did you do tp get 430RWHP?



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Originally Posted by zkeller
Thanks for the information.

One of the attractive advantages to using the Autronic ECU in my opinion is the fact that you will not need the Mass Air Flow sensor. I can just strap a silicone coupler on the throttle body and run it down to the air cleaner.

You will only need the TPS, coolant temp, air temp, crank angle, and cam sensor to run the car. No EGR sensors, no O2 sensor.

Also when I add a little positive intake manifold pressure this winter, the ECU will come into play further.

You must use a converter from FAST and a reluctor adapter for the CAS signal.

Do you know if the stock GM coils have built in ignitors or are they just standard coils? That in itself would be a desiding factor because I cannot use coils with ignitors.
Stock LS coils have built in ignitors.

You can get rid of the MAF with HP Tuners as well as EFILive. You can also add a 2 bar MAP sensor for boosted applications. The FAST eDist box has issues. Your much better off using the stock ECU.

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Originally Posted by zkeller
What did you do tp get 430RWHP?
Fully ported GTP 5.3 heads
Ported TB
Underdrive pulley
Cold air intake
LS6 ported oil pump
JTR LT headers
LS6 intake manifold
11.2@126mph 1/4 mile with 1.8x 60ft (driven by Mas280, haven't taken it to the strip myself yet)
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Originally Posted by Mdessouki
Fully ported GTP 5.3 heads
Ported TB
Underdrive pulley
Cold air intake
LS6 ported oil pump
JTR LT headers
LS6 intake manifold
11.2@126mph 1/4 mile with 1.8x 60ft (driven by Mas280, haven't taken it to the strip myself yet)
Was the car tuned? I assume so.
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Was the car tuned? I assume so.
It was indeed. Also have a 225/225 TSP cam, which I forgot to mention in the mod list Mdessouki mentioned.
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I assumed it was cammed but torquecenral is down so I couldnt verify wich one. It seems like everyone that does these swaps wants realy high hp numbers. Im just going to use my 3inch exhaust and a intake. I might port my tb if I find time. I think Ill save my money for sticky tires and some hpd events.
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Originally Posted by zkeller
Thanks for the information.

One of the attractive advantages to using the Autronic ECU in my opinion is the fact that you will not need the Mass Air Flow sensor. I can just strap a silicone coupler on the throttle body and run it down to the air cleaner.
You don't need one for the stock PCM either. You can disable it and run everything in speed density.

Do you know if the stock GM coils have built in ignitors or are they just standard coils? That in itself would be a desiding factor because I cannot use coils with ignitors.
As mentioned, the individual coils hav ehteir own ignitor.

The stock PCM is pretty good with the software avaiable. You can always step up to a piggyback (Megasquirt), or standalone (DFI, FAST, Bigstuff3) when the time comes for boost. Really, if you're planning on running less than 1 bar of boost, the stock PCM with either EFILive or HP tuners will work just fine.

I chose the Bigstuff3 (http://www.bigstuff3.com ), but I like bells and whistles
, and I'd like to be able to run more than 1 bar of boost

Go for it, the LS1 swap is awesome.
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Originally Posted by Mdessouki
I think Ill save my money for sticky tires and some hpd events.
RIGHT ON MAN!
me too, and its been a wise choice.
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Originally Posted by Mdessouki
I assumed it was cammed but torquecenral is down so I couldnt verify wich one. It seems like everyone that does these swaps wants realy high hp numbers. Im just going to use my 3inch exhaust and a intake. I might port my tb if I find time. I think Ill save my money for sticky tires and some hpd events.
The person I bought it from actually had a 233/239 cam in it before which made even more hp, but I opted for the 225/225 for better low end power and driveabliity.

Good idea on the sticky tires hpde's, that's what I would do if I didn't have they money for mods (which I don't, and I'm lucky I found this one for sale with all that stuff included ) Luckily I have some toyo RA1's sittin in my garage for the auto-x in 2 weeks and a HPDE on the 21-22nd at Willow springs
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Originally Posted by wingsfan
You don't need one for the stock PCM either. You can disable it and run everything in speed density.



As mentioned, the individual coils hav ehteir own ignitor.

The stock PCM is pretty good with the software avaiable. You can always step up to a piggyback (Megasquirt), or standalone (DFI, FAST, Bigstuff3) when the time comes for boost. Really, if you're planning on running less than 1 bar of boost, the stock PCM with either EFILive or HP tuners will work just fine.

I chose the Bigstuff3 (http://www.bigstuff3.com ), but I like bells and whistles
, and I'd like to be able to run more than 1 bar of boost

Go for it, the LS1 swap is awesome.
1 bar of boost, on a V8!!! I think I will be content running 8 or so pounds. 8 or so pounds would probably be at or over 600RWHP I would think?

My car is in cherry condition. Paint is perfect, interior is flawless. Anyone else do up a nice car, or get one that was pretty beat up?
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Originally Posted by zkeller
1 bar of boost, on a V8!!! I think I will be content running 8 or so pounds. 8 or so pounds would probably be at or over 600RWHP I would think?
Well, I'm starting with 6 psi, but I'm leaving myself room to grow. Of course it will depend on turbo choice, etc, but I'd guess that I will need 10psi to hit 600rwhp

My car is in cherry condition. Paint is perfect, interior is flawless. Anyone else do up a nice car, or get one that was pretty beat up?
While mine wasn't mint, it was in good shape, and the motor still ran just fine. My car could use some new paint, new carpet, and the few really small dings and scratches could be dealt with, but otherwise it's in great shape.
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Originally Posted by zkeller
1 bar of boost, on a V8!!! I think I will be content running 8 or so pounds. 8 or so pounds would probably be at or over 600RWHP I would think?
I'm sure 600 rwhp could be done @ 8 psi on a stock motor; however, you'll need a decent-sized turbo, and just as with the rotary, you'll sacrifice spool for more flow. Also, it seems that the general consensus on LS1tech.com is that if you expect to make 550-600 rwhp for any period of time, you'll need a forged bottom end.
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ALL RX7'S WITH A LS1 MOTOR SWAP PLEASE READ!!!!

I stumbeled upon this site by accedent! I have a friend who has a rx7, he has talked about puting a LS1 into it. Being the owner of a LS1 I thought this was a good idea, until I heard some of the **** u fruit cakes wher talking on this site!!!

First of all their was this *** trying 2 say that gm copied the rx7 n its aerodynamic body lines.WELL...... If you look back to f-bodies and vetts back n the day, they had a aerodynamic body line dateing back 2 the 60'S!!! Look at many import 2day with their aftermarket ram air hoods, What Are the old school amd new school Mach one, camero, and trans ams copying you???!!!! All of you are proving how gay u really are on this forum. NOT only are you Rice Burrners Trying to be as fast as American cars by taking our motors,
your trying to look like us now!!! Do you understand the discrace u are to the super powers of Japan, thats what rx7 are, the super powes of Japan. Even People in Japanes forums think all of u guys are pitifull.

Then their was another jackass trying to compare the GM motors and their quarter mile times. With some home made chart that my 5 year old nease could do a better job of making!!! Its kind of funny the newest motor was a LT1 listed on this list, he was trying to say it ran high 14's!! We'll I dont know where the hell you get your times from but in my world I go based off of what I see at the track, REALITY!!!!!Ive seen stock LT1's hit 13.7's. Thats only Lt1's... What about the LS1's, Ive seen stock ones hit 13.0's and 12.9 with just a airlid, and muffler, not a cat back, no NOS. Dont even get me started bout the almighty LS6, LS2. or the all new LS7 thats comming out in this summer of 2005 in the new ZO6( Its actually called the Z07). 500 hp/ 500 fp of torq. I think that is well enough to hit an 11 in the quarter with some decent tires! And these are stock motors, STOCK NO INTERNAL MOTOR MODS. OHH YEAH dont even make me mention the STOCK, STOCK ZL1 motor from gm witch they STILL PRODUCE in special edition edition f-bodies ( Camero/ Firebirds). Its A 422 ci motor that runs 9's in the quarter stock no bolt ons no power adder of any kind!!!!!

Many of you fagets are saying that you beet a stock ( no internal ) LS1 with your upped boost, WELL THATS NOT STOCK!!!!!!!!!

I also hear u fagets saying you have a LS1 swap and u have stage 3 heads, full exhaust, cam,etc, AND you brag bout beating a STOCK LS1 f- body9 Camero/firebird)
IF the ls1 had the same mods exactly as u do in your rx7 it would smoke your ***. You guys understand nothing about what happens when you throw that big *** motor in a rx7. you become as heavy as a ls1 f-body (camero/firebird). DO U UNDERSTAND MY TRANS AM WEIGHTS 3,200 pounds with me in it, AND my 5.7 LS1. GET A GRIP I'LL SMOKE ANY OF U FAGETS THAT THINK IM WRONG!!!! IVE PROVED 3 OF U WRONG ALREADY, THOSE OF U KNOW WHO U R!!! ANY OF U THAT DONT BELIEVE ME BRING IT. ILL PROVE YOUR PATHETIC ASSES WRONG 2!!!!! GAME OVER... I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MYLS18U
ALL RX7'S WITH A LS1 MOTOR SWAP PLEASE READ!!!!
Dude, you need to get a hold of yourself. You must have a ***** problem or something. What a douche bag.

3200 pounds, b.s.

It's just a car you retard. Take your staight axel, iron stamped suspension sled and shove it up your ***.

Go get laid while you are at it.
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You have no clue what you are talking about do you MYLS18U? Please mature or feel free to not visit our message board again. Many of us could care less about 1/4 mile times or how a LS1 adds 500lbs to the weight of our car as you seem to think.
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I have a good friend that drove one of those aerodynamic corvettes from the '60's. At the twelve hours of Sebring in 1965 in a Gransport. He says the faster you went the lighter the car got in the front until at about 160mph you thought the front wheels were off the ground. Thats some great aerodynamics I'm sure glad our cars have moved forward in technology. I don't see much difference in early to late model GM products(except the newest Corvettes). That guy is now 70 and still racing....... an RX7.... nuff said.
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Thanks for the laugh dude, I haven't read anything that funny in a long time

Hopefully by the time you're actually old enough to drive you'll learn to spell CamAro, not once but you mispelled it TWICE fucknut. thinks I'm a jackass or not cause everyone already knows I'm a dick.


Originally Posted by MYLS18U
ALL RX7'S WITH A LS1 MOTOR SWAP PLEASE READ!!!!

I stumbeled upon this site by accedent! I have a friend who has a rx7, he has talked about puting a LS1 into it. Being the owner of a LS1 I thought this was a good idea, until I heard some of the **** u fruit cakes wher talking on this site!!!

First of all their was this *** trying 2 say that gm copied the rx7 n its aerodynamic body lines.WELL...... If you look back to f-bodies and vetts back n the day, they had a aerodynamic body line dateing back 2 the 60'S!!! Look at many import 2day with their aftermarket ram air hoods, What Are the old school amd new school Mach one, camero, and trans ams copying you???!!!! All of you are proving how gay u really are on this forum. NOT only are you Rice Burrners Trying to be as fast as American cars by taking our motors,
your trying to look like us now!!! Do you understand the discrace u are to the super powers of Japan, thats what rx7 are, the super powes of Japan. Even People in Japanes forums think all of u guys are pitifull.

Then their was another jackass trying to compare the GM motors and their quarter mile times. With some home made chart that my 5 year old nease could do a better job of making!!! Its kind of funny the newest motor was a LT1 listed on this list, he was trying to say it ran high 14's!! We'll I dont know where the hell you get your times from but in my world I go based off of what I see at the track, REALITY!!!!!Ive seen stock LT1's hit 13.7's. Thats only Lt1's... What about the LS1's, Ive seen stock ones hit 13.0's and 12.9 with just a airlid, and muffler, not a cat back, no NOS. Dont even get me started bout the almighty LS6, LS2. or the all new LS7 thats comming out in this summer of 2005 in the new ZO6( Its actually called the Z07). 500 hp/ 500 fp of torq. I think that is well enough to hit an 11 in the quarter with some decent tires! And these are stock motors, STOCK NO INTERNAL MOTOR MODS. OHH YEAH dont even make me mention the STOCK, STOCK ZL1 motor from gm witch they STILL PRODUCE in special edition edition f-bodies ( Camero/ Firebirds). Its A 422 ci motor that runs 9's in the quarter stock no bolt ons no power adder of any kind!!!!!

Many of you fagets are saying that you beet a stock ( no internal ) LS1 with your upped boost, WELL THATS NOT STOCK!!!!!!!!!

I also hear u fagets saying you have a LS1 swap and u have stage 3 heads, full exhaust, cam,etc, AND you brag bout beating a STOCK LS1 f- body9 Camero/firebird)
IF the ls1 had the same mods exactly as u do in your rx7 it would smoke your ***. You guys understand nothing about what happens when you throw that big *** motor in a rx7. you become as heavy as a ls1 f-body (camero/firebird). DO U UNDERSTAND MY TRANS AM WEIGHTS 3,200 pounds with me in it, AND my 5.7 LS1. GET A GRIP I'LL SMOKE ANY OF U FAGETS THAT THINK IM WRONG!!!! IVE PROVED 3 OF U WRONG ALREADY, THOSE OF U KNOW WHO U R!!! ANY OF U THAT DONT BELIEVE ME BRING IT. ILL PROVE YOUR PATHETIC ASSES WRONG 2!!!!! GAME OVER... I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OK, that is the funniest post I have read in quite some time.

Does it hurt your feelings that my 17 year old RX-7 with a stock LT1/T56 is faster than a C5 Z06?

Too bad we're across the continent from each other as I would take you up on your challenge.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the T56/LS1 combo a mear 30 pounds heavier than the rotary motor/tranny?

You can feel the frustration in his post...
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ignorant to say the least.

ZKeller, I'm actually in the same boat as you with this SM2/CDI situation. The plan was to use the SM2 if I decide to pull the trigger as you say but apparently It will be simpler to just use the stock ECU. Any information on this issue that you would care to share would be great.

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Originally Posted by MYLS18U
ALL RX7'S WITH A LS1 MOTOR SWAP PLEASE READ!!!!

I stumbeled upon this site by accedent! I have a friend who has a rx7, he has talked about puting a LS1 into it. Being the owner of a LS1 I thought this was a good idea, until I heard some of the **** u fruit cakes wher talking on this site!!!

First of all their was this *** trying 2 say that gm copied the rx7 n its aerodynamic body lines.WELL...... If you look back to f-bodies and vetts back n the day, they had a aerodynamic body line dateing back 2 the 60'S!!! Look at many import 2day with their aftermarket ram air hoods, What Are the old school amd new school Mach one, camero, and trans ams copying you???!!!! All of you are proving how gay u really are on this forum. NOT only are you Rice Burrners Trying to be as fast as American cars by taking our motors,
your trying to look like us now!!! Do you understand the discrace u are to the super powers of Japan, thats what rx7 are, the super powes of Japan. Even People in Japanes forums think all of u guys are pitifull.

Then their was another jackass trying to compare the GM motors and their quarter mile times. With some home made chart that my 5 year old nease could do a better job of making!!! Its kind of funny the newest motor was a LT1 listed on this list, he was trying to say it ran high 14's!! We'll I dont know where the hell you get your times from but in my world I go based off of what I see at the track, REALITY!!!!!Ive seen stock LT1's hit 13.7's. Thats only Lt1's... What about the LS1's, Ive seen stock ones hit 13.0's and 12.9 with just a airlid, and muffler, not a cat back, no NOS. Dont even get me started bout the almighty LS6, LS2. or the all new LS7 thats comming out in this summer of 2005 in the new ZO6( Its actually called the Z07). 500 hp/ 500 fp of torq. I think that is well enough to hit an 11 in the quarter with some decent tires! And these are stock motors, STOCK NO INTERNAL MOTOR MODS. OHH YEAH dont even make me mention the STOCK, STOCK ZL1 motor from gm witch they STILL PRODUCE in special edition edition f-bodies ( Camero/ Firebirds). Its A 422 ci motor that runs 9's in the quarter stock no bolt ons no power adder of any kind!!!!!

Many of you fagets are saying that you beet a stock ( no internal ) LS1 with your upped boost, WELL THATS NOT STOCK!!!!!!!!!

I also hear u fagets saying you have a LS1 swap and u have stage 3 heads, full exhaust, cam,etc, AND you brag bout beating a STOCK LS1 f- body9 Camero/firebird)
IF the ls1 had the same mods exactly as u do in your rx7 it would smoke your ***. You guys understand nothing about what happens when you throw that big *** motor in a rx7. you become as heavy as a ls1 f-body (camero/firebird). DO U UNDERSTAND MY TRANS AM WEIGHTS 3,200 pounds with me in it, AND my 5.7 LS1. GET A GRIP I'LL SMOKE ANY OF U FAGETS THAT THINK IM WRONG!!!! IVE PROVED 3 OF U WRONG ALREADY, THOSE OF U KNOW WHO U R!!! ANY OF U THAT DONT BELIEVE ME BRING IT. ILL PROVE YOUR PATHETIC ASSES WRONG 2!!!!! GAME OVER... I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He gets no *****.
That is all.
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wow how ignorant in number weight. The stock FD with a little turn of a **** would still take it. Sounds like a leftist...the scream so loud you can hear what they are saying. Oh by the way......dont let import items that allow that vette to run stop the American Flag. GIT ER DUN.
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I corner weighed my LS1T56 swapped 1987 Sport, 4-piston 5 lug, widebody FC on 5zigen 17x10's all around, nonturbo aluminum hood, with a full Series 5 interior swap, an S4-T2 lsd rearend, no A/C, no PS pump, no stereo, on TeinFlex coilovers, dual 2.5'' exhaust and it came in at 2722 pounds with 3/4 full gas tank.

hmmm, 2722 lbs and 330hp/350tq thru a 6speed, yes this is good!

that is the same weight as a T2 of the same year with a lightened aftermarket exhaust.
in fact we had the same percentages front and rear... 54/46.

now, sure, a nonturbo would be a hundred pounds less if in comparable condition.

I could get my car down another 100 pounds with a lexan rear window and removing some unnecessary interior parts and the floor tar, not to mention lighter wheels and aluminum coilovers could shed another 50 pounds if you have the money.
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