Slammedblk7

iTrader: (7)

Ted you sure do like to stir up problems dont you? you see if you already know a outcome to a certain action to blantanly cause problems why do it ? anytime me or bdc or anyone involving us you run straight at us with your discrediting accusations, or do you do this to anyone who has built a car and has come up with it ?

Ted, i would like to know what kind of person you are, this has nothing to do with car stuff. if you proceed to cause more drama, rather than be an adult and not deliberately stir up the dust everyone will see how childish you are. it seems you dont like anything we do over here, ever! now the drama with you and BDC leave that else, but who started it in this thread, you did ted. you know exactly where it will lead to. this is about my dynoing not his car.When the figures are backed up with proof you run off and ignore it. When the proof is shown, what more do you want ? You were not there so you dont know anything first hand, come to one of the dyno sessions and you will learn. my dynos are real, IN FACT ill go back to the dyno and make MORE power then yesterday, but then you might still discredit me. ted, i honestly dont care to hear any of your rubbish.

Truthfully just stay out of my thread and PM others who care to hear your tellings because you ALWAYS cause trouble around us. You seem to take stabs at anyone who doesnt follow your beliefs or someone who seems to not show you enough proof.

ERic.

Klar

I can attest to the fact that this car is ******* fast. I was there.
It'll make more power for a few reasons.

1. It was extremely hot in the dyno room. I did the best I could to keep things cooled down, but the abient air temps were 110 and then some.

2. Air quality. I got high off of the 112 oct fuel in 20mins. BDC got some of my antics on camera. Don't you post them. In a real world situation the air would have been cooler and cleaner.

3. The plugs were old. Not sure if Eric has picked new ones up yet, but I'm sure that that was a big thing up top.

4. Boost issues. Not sure if this was ever brought up, but we had to keep redoing clamps and making sure hoses stayed on. Ignition breakup can cause boost to drop slightly. So the fluckuation also show the boost coming back up too. Not a steady boost with "tuner issues".

Lots of things can go wrong. Alot went right. I rode in the car and can attest that alot of the problem were heat related. On the road it ran smooth, but broke up on the dyno.

Next time I come up, I'm bringing a bigger fan.

-Aaron

RETed

I did not claim the car WASN'T fast.
Please reread my replies and make sure you understand what I was trying to say.

I have seen dyno graphs that will spike (i.e. read falsely high) due to uncontrolled circumstances - usually tire slip.
I'm not saying it was tire slip that caused the waves at the end.
I'm saying that the top end of the dyno graph is not smooth, and that implies something is wrong.

Now, trying to find what's wrong is the million dollar question.
People are getting upset cause I'm pointing fingers.
Hey, I'm not the one claiming it wasn't this or it wasn't that - so of course I'm going to bring up alternate possibilities of what *might* be wrong / bad.
Hey, it's all an educamated guess, but people get insulted when I do bring it up.
I don't understand why people are taking it so personally.
Go figure.


-Ted

RETed

I don't even know who you are.
All I see you sign off is "Eric".
Eric who?

P.S. - who the hell locked this thread and not post why?
I thought it was ErnieT who did and accused him wrongfully of it.
(Sorry about that ErnieT! )
So would the mod that locked that thread please identify yourself???

I guess I need to put up a grand disclaimer...
This is the Internet...
I dunno why "you guys" get so huffy about all my comments.
Don't you take all of this with a grain of salt?
Do you have something to prove to me? I doubt it.
Do you need to get my respect? It shouldn't surprise you that unless hell freezes over, it's not going to happen unless your attitude changes (i.e. respect is earned, not given).
Anyone who knows the history between me and BDC knows it goes a long way.
I still don't understand why BDC even bothers to reply to my crap.
If he's such an outstanding tuner, then my comments should not rattle his reputation.
I just don't get it.
Think about it..."you guys" don't give a rats *** about me; why do you even bother to retort to my replies in the first place?
Go figure...
/rant

This kinda stuff really has nothing to do with the original thread content.
I'd be happy to discuss any of it through PM - this is my end of my rant in this thread to keep it clean.


-Ted

RETed

Well, I had to look at the dyno graph on page one again...

The red and the green lines look similar.
The blue one looks like it's totally out-of-phase with the other two.
I'm basically looking at the "torque" curve and not the "horsepower" curve, although it should apply to both since horsepower is extrapolated from torque.

Although the sampling was only done from 3 runs (i.e. three different lines), this is really not a good enough number of samples to see how the consistency is.


-Ted

Klar

If you look at the graph and fill out the rest of the curve, it ends up higher than that.

Next time I'll sit on the back so slipping won't be a possiblity. But who will keep the engine from over heating then? Or try and keep things cooled down. I have an idea, how about you come help. No? Then go away.

People are getting upset beause you are trying to say that BDC sucks, just more subversive. The fact is that he is a great guy that puts the same effort in other people's car that he does his.
You seem to just have something against him.

Million dollar question? It just takes the process of elemination. Only so many things can be wrong. Start from the top and work your way down.

BDC

Rattle my reputation? Nice try on attempting to put thoughts in my head but it won't work (that's called "mindreading", by the way). If you read my replies, and give them some credence, then you'll see that I am upset because of *you* and *your comments*, Ted. My reputation is left in the hands of my customers who've spent money with me for my services. I need not to try and defend myself and, consequently, fall for your ill-fated attempt at baiting me.

I know your kind -- you twist, contort, and shift facts & the truth to fit a certain (and sometimes pre-meditated) notion that you are asserting to others here and elsewhere. This is the way you've seemingly been for almost as long as I've known you, it seems, atleast in writing. You come off like a battering ram, and, even if some of the things you may say from time to time have merit, the impact of those is wasted on how you assail without provocation. Why, oh why, you have such a beef with me to attack just literally everything I post or claim is beyond me. The readers (and the guys who have money to spend on either of us) can decide for themselves who to give their attention to.

We respond to your comments and your "crap" because we're calling you on it. You're an abusive and callous jerk and you frequently come off as such in writing, on these forums, especially on the things that are particulars of my work, progress, or fortunate success. What am I supposed to do when you do nothing but criticize my work and such, roll over and play dead? Play your game? Try and squelch me into submission, hoping I won't respond, or hoping that I won't call you on your "crap"?

Nah, I won't.

For the third time in this post:

) Where are your dyno figures and results from your building and tuning attempts?
) Where are your satisfied customers with Ted Koseki-produced engines or other services?
) Where's the before and after results of your porting work?
) Where is *anything* you have done (with the exception of a halfway modified stock '87 Turbo II)?

You come on to the forums, you point the finger, you gripe, you unjustly criticize without giving any reasonable or tactful room for improvement (in other words, you aren't honestly and sincerely looking to be fair), you act with such chest-beating bravado and grandiosity, yet in all of this, you have nothing to back-up your own experience of how, as per the implication, you can "do better". You show *nothing*. You prove *nothing*. Don't give me this ceaseless, "it's coming" excuse like you just did a few response back. "It's been coming" for years; what a ruse. It doesn't work. All you can do is point the finger at guys like, to try and knock us down, to lift yourself up, sir. There's a term for that -- it's called "bullying".

B

RETed

Either we're looking at two different things or someone's eyes are bad.

If you follow the curve from prior to 6kRPM or so, it's obvious that if you extrapolate up to the higher RPM's it drops significantly more than 480.
This is something you should've learned in high school math.


-Ted

RETed

Man, my comprehension must've took a ****, cause you look like you're contradicting yourself there.

If you want answers to all your question, shoot me a PM.
I don't like to self-glorify myself in public forums unlike some other people.
This has nothing significant to contribute to this thread, so I consider it way off-topic.

Man, you should look at the comments you're spewing.
Talk about the kettle calling itself black...

Again, I'm awaiting this cut&paste to me in PM.
I won't hold my breath on you doing it though, cause you've never done it in the past.

Having a nice weekend.
(It's Kamehameha Day in Hawaii, and it's a state holiday on Friday - I get a 3 day weekend. )


-Ted

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

ted, why assume that the "breakup" on the dyno graph is BDC's bad tuning?

it could have been anything..

2TurboII4U

Are you ever gonna get the full graph up? I'm curious to see the spool up of that turbo. I'm looking to just get around or hopefully break the 500rwhp mark, but I wanna do it with a smaller turbo for better spool up. When do you make full boost with that turbo?