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Old May 11, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Hmm, maybe someone can help me here for just the front:

17x8 (+25 or +35 offset) with 225/45/17 tires NOT on coilovers

As I see it, if I choose the +25 offset, I will be rolling the fenders quite a bit, but it will clear the spring and perch no problem. If I run the +35 offset, I will more likely than not, hit the spring and perch... but if I put on 5mm spacers, I should clear them, and maybe just barely have to "touch up" the fenders.

Which would be the better choice and why?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Looking at some new wheels again.
I just put new wheels and tires on my Audi and now I need to finish my 7 off.

I’m looking at MB Motorsport Weapon wheels
17X8 28 offset front with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 235/45/17
17X9 27 offset rear with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 245/40/17

This is a very cheap setup but will I have any clearance problems up front?
I’m also running Ground Control coilovers with camber plates.

Oh ya, what color would you get gunmetal or bronze. This is for a 10th ann. car (white).
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo80cid
I’m looking at MB Motorsport Weapon wheels
17X8 28 offset front with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 235/45/17
17X9 27 offset rear with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 245/40/17

This is a very cheap setup but will I have any clearance problems up front?
I’m also running Ground Control coilovers with camber plates.
That should work no problem.
You might very minor fitment problems with the fender - a slight roll should give you the required clearance.


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Old May 12, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Thanks RETed, I was waiting to hear what you thought.
I'll be placing my order tonight.

Thanks again
Old May 12, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Did you see the other thread???
https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/ordered-17x8s-17x9s-fc-408007/page3/

I swear you two are the same person.


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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Ya, I saw that today. I feel stupid…….duh!

but this is me:
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...703#post455703
Old May 12, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Infini IV
Hmm, maybe someone can help me here for just the front:

17x8 (+25 or +35 offset) with 225/45/17 tires NOT on coilovers

As I see it, if I choose the +25 offset, I will be rolling the fenders quite a bit, but it will clear the spring and perch no problem. If I run the +35 offset, I will more likely than not, hit the spring and perch... but if I put on 5mm spacers, I should clear them, and maybe just barely have to "touch up" the fenders.

Which would be the better choice and why?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Infini IV
Hmm, maybe someone can help me here for just the front:

17x8 (+25 or +35 offset) with 225/45/17 tires NOT on coilovers

As I see it, if I choose the +25 offset, I will be rolling the fenders quite a bit, but it will clear the spring and perch no problem. If I run the +35 offset, I will more likely than not, hit the spring and perch... but if I put on 5mm spacers, I should clear them, and maybe just barely have to "touch up" the fenders.

Which would be the better choice and why?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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8" +25
Why?
Cause I try to avoid spacers as much as possible.
If we're talking show vehicle where the car isn't being pushed hard, then spacers are okay.
If you're going to DRIVE that car, get rid of the sparcers - they compromise strength.

8" +25 with the 225/45/17 should be okay with slight fender rolling - you shouldn't be rolling the fenders THAT much with this combo.

I've tried the 17x8 +35 with 225/45/17, and it doesn't fit with stock type struts and springs.
It always hits the lower perch on the strut.


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Old May 13, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
I've tried the 17x8 +35 with 225/45/17, and it doesn't fit with stock type struts and springs.
It always hits the lower perch on the strut.


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That's the setup I have on my car and have still plenty of space between the tire and perch.Also that's with really "blocky" kumo 712's 225/45R17(P.O.S. tires BTW) so you may even be able to use a "non-blocky" 235/40 R17 without a spacer out front at that offset.At least that's what I find on my car.YMMV
Old May 13, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
8" +25
Why?
Cause I try to avoid spacers as much as possible.
If we're talking show vehicle where the car isn't being pushed hard, then spacers are okay.
If you're going to DRIVE that car, get rid of the sparcers - they compromise strength.

8" +25 with the 225/45/17 should be okay with slight fender rolling - you shouldn't be rolling the fenders THAT much with this combo.

I've tried the 17x8 +35 with 225/45/17, and it doesn't fit with stock type struts and springs.
It always hits the lower perch on the strut.


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What tire are your running? I don't see why that would rub at all..
Old May 13, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Thanks, I'd rather have lower offset in the fronts anyway.
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Originally Posted by turbo80cid
Looking at some new wheels again.
I just put new wheels and tires on my Audi and now I need to finish my 7 off.

I’m looking at MB Motorsport Weapon wheels
17X8 28 offset front with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 235/45/17
17X9 27 offset rear with Dunlop Sp Sport FM901 245/40/17

This is a very cheap setup but will I have any clearance problems up front?
I’m also running Ground Control coilovers with camber plates.

Oh ya, what color would you get gunmetal or bronze. This is for a 10th ann. car (white).
I have those wheels in gunmetal, but I used 255/40R17 on the rear. Bridgestone S-03 Pole Position tires, BTW. I'll probably need to roll the front fenders, but this is a play car so no big deal.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:23 AM
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What tire are your running? I don't see why that would rub at all..
Car #1 - S5 FC turbo, SSR GP-theta mesh, 17" x 8" +35, 225/45/17, Bridgestone tires (forgot which model), Tokico Illuminas, Ground Control coilovers - only way to make it fit was to use a 3mm spacer and adjust negative camber via camber plates in front.

Car #2 - S5 FC turbo, Work Rezaz Roar, 17" x 8" +35, 235/45/17, Nitto NT-555 / Dunlop SP9000, Tokico Illuminas, K2RD coilovers - used 5.5mm spacer up front


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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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ok i have read every single post in this thread.. it took me about an hour and a half
but the problem is, i still really dont know what i could fit on my FC....

i want 18 inch and in front i may want to stick a 235 tire and in the back a 255 (maybe smaller)...
i DON'T want to fit spacers...

so what will the wheel width and offset be for the best fitment with the wheels nicely along the outer side of the car (without sticking out)
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Originally Posted by RETed
Car #1 - S5 FC turbo, SSR GP-theta mesh, 17" x 8" +35, 225/45/17, Bridgestone tires (forgot which model), Tokico Illuminas, Ground Control coilovers - only way to make it fit was to use a 3mm spacer and adjust negative camber via camber plates in front.

Car #2 - S5 FC turbo, Work Rezaz Roar, 17" x 8" +35, 235/45/17, Nitto NT-555 / Dunlop SP9000, Tokico Illuminas, K2RD coilovers - used 5.5mm spacer up front


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Originally Posted by The Griffin
That's the setup I have on my car and have still plenty of space between the tire and perch.Also that's with really "blocky" kumo 712's 225/45R17(P.O.S. tires BTW) so you may even be able to use a "non-blocky" 235/40 R17 without a spacer out front at that offset.At least that's what I find on my car.YMMV
I take it then the coilover sleeves are a little wider then the stock struts? I guess I'll have to use a spacer soon also
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Originally Posted by Furb
ok i have read every single post in this thread.. it took me about an hour and a half
but the problem is, i still really dont know what i could fit on my FC....

i want 18 inch and in front i may want to stick a 235 tire and in the back a 255 (maybe smaller)...
i DON'T want to fit spacers...

so what will the wheel width and offset be for the best fitment with the wheels nicely along the outer side of the car (without sticking out)
If it's not obvious, then let me be explicit.
Rim diameter has NOTHING to do with fitment.
As long as the overall (tire) diameter is close to stock, that's all we're worried about.

What we look at is the rim WIDTH and the OFFSET.
This dictates how much clearance you got.


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Old May 14, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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I take it then the coilover sleeves are a little wider then the stock struts? I guess I'll have to use a spacer soon also
The problem with the GC's is that you need to spin the fronts all the way DOWN to get the proper ride height.
Thus, the inner clearance is not the strut body or the lower spring perch - it's the GC adjustable spring mount that gets in the way.
This adds at least another 1/4" or 6mm of obstruction that you need to worry about.


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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
What we look at is the rim WIDTH and the OFFSET.
This dictates how much clearance you got.
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and that's what i asked you... but ok to make things simple:

if i keep the tire diameter the same, wich offset do i need in the front for a 8inch wide rim and in the back for a 8,5 or 9 inch wide rim

does the offset also have anything to do with the dish size? if so, how can i get a maximum dish size but keep the wheel in the same place?
Old May 15, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Who was the dumbass that mounted the tire?
Go ask ANY tire manufacturer, no 255 street tire is designed to fit safely on a 7.0" rim.


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Actually a buddy of mine who works as a tire tech. I've never, and I do repeat NEVER had a problem out of these tires. Straight line or through turns I've never experienced any rolling of the tires or such that would dictate they are unsafe. I'll tell you what. when I get a chance I'll take a couple of good pics of em and post them.
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Originally Posted by RETed
The problem with the GC's is that you need to spin the fronts all the way DOWN to get the proper ride height.
Thus, the inner clearance is not the strut body or the lower spring perch - it's the GC adjustable spring mount that gets in the way.
This adds at least another 1/4" or 6mm of obstruction that you need to worry about.


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Thanks for clarifying that Ted....cheers
Old May 16, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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if i keep the tire diameter the same, wich offset do i need in the front for a 8inch wide rim and in the back for a 8,5 or 9 inch wide rim
I dunno how many times this has been answered in this thread.
Too lazy to look?
My personal recommendations are 8" +30 up front, 9" +25 in rear.


does the offset also have anything to do with the dish size?
Yes, in general...
Some Japan manufacturer use "hi disc" and "lo disc" rim designs just to clear "big brake" calipers.
"Lo disc" will have more dish than identical "hi disc" rim width and offset.


if so, how can i get a maximum dish size but keep the wheel in the same place?
You can't.
At least not in the front.
The FC runs too tight of a clearance to allow messing with the offset to get more dish.
The only way to get more dish is to change rim model.
"Monoblocks" in general have more dish due to the very flat rim face.

In the rear, it's a little different, since there is a lot of space.
A 9" +35 or 9" +20 will both fit (and anything in between).
The difference between the two rims are over 1/2" of dish difference if everything else is kept differently.


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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Thanx!!

and my last question, because i saw a nice add for rims...
they are actually for an FD but i read that it could fit using spacers!

but i think the rims are just a little too wide..
fornt 8,5J and back 9,5J both with an offset of +35mm

will this fit when i use spacers? (sorry dont know noting about wheel sizes )
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If this has been answered, flame away, if not, ...

Found a set of nice aftermarket wheels from a 96 lexus sc300 they are 16" 114.3X5. not sure of th offset, i assume close to stock by the pics. Is this wheel a good fit (i know it will bolt up) for a FC3C? I read somewhere that SC's have +50mm offset, seems a bit much.
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If this has been answered, flame away, if not, ...

Found a set of nice aftermarket wheels from a 96 lexus sc300 they are 16" 114.3X5. not sure of th offset, i assume close to stock by the pics. Is this wheel a good fit (i know it will bolt up) for a FC3C? I read somewhere that SC's have +50mm offset, seems a bit much.
If they are in fact +50mm they'll never fit. unless you ran some of those H&R "real" bolt on spacers.. There usually 1 -2" spacers but ther bolt to your existing lugs and the "new" hubs have studs on them...



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