RETed

You give yourself too much credit...



I've seen an Option video of an R32 running 18" rims with 35 series tires cornering so hard, the rim lip HIT the asphalt during cornering.

I don't approve of going to 19", cause trying to get the tire diameter down to stock dimensions means going with a really low aspect ratio which means less tire between rim lip and road...in other words "stupid".
If you're rich, go right ahead.
It sounds like pot holes and bad roads don't deter you, so good luck with your wheels.


-Ted

RETed

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...5&page=2&pp=15

19's on an FC...


-Ted

YearsOfDecay

My theory is, do want you want, you will anyway ! But i hate to se people send mony on stuff and then have it not fit...

I debated long and hard on my rims because, at least for the next few years, I do not want to put a widebody kit on my car. Therefore, I decided that I was going to limit myeslf to rims that would fit with the stock suspension and fenders.. I COULD have gone with 17X 8.5+33 in the rears, and easily run a 265 tire without hitting the swingarm..

However.. people tend to forget that, whe you are looking at the rear of our cars with STOCK suspension, 90% of the time, the stock suspension has sagged a bit.. as the suspension sags, the top of the wheels tip in, giving the illusion that there is more room to the fender lip that there actually is... With the wheels i have on there.. i have about 1/2 an inch to the lip on the outside... but the camber is off, the rear wheels tilted in at the top a bit to much.. SO, after i put the eibach's and AGX's on, I'm going to also put a camber correction link (maybe the dual links, depending on jjust how much i need to tip the wheels out) on and correct the camber.. this will dramatically reduce the amount of room between the fender and the tire!!!!

BUT... it will still tuck under the fenders without and modification, which is exactly what i want.

I'm fairly sure that you are going to have to roll your fenders to get it to fit without cutting your rear tires on the fenders. But, hey, if you're willing to do that.. go for it (since you've already ordered the wheels... you kinda have to huh )

YearsOfDecay

Jeezus... I'm glad i stuck with 17's

Japan2LA

iTrader: (256)

REted, how can I say this . I understand that you know alot about FC's, and that you have been in the game for a long time.. hell, some people might even call you an FC GURU.. but are you always this arrogant and condescending?? I mean really... WTF? Yes, I will be running large wheels, and yes the tire sidewalls are small, and yes the wheels and tires are on the higher end of the spectrum in regards to price... and potholes and rough roads might become my enemy.. WHOS CARES???? DOes it really pain you and bother you so much to the extent that you feel it prudent to call my ideas and taste "Stupid"??? To say that "I give myself to much credit"?? I did not ask for any credit here... we are all re-inventing the wheel with these cars... everything has been done atleast twice, maybe 3 times and that is ok with me, maybe it is not OK with you?? I know that I do not go out of my way to bad mouth the ideas of others... If someone wants to put 13inch reverse Dayton wires or 20 inch spinners on their FC, thats their Business.. It may not be my taste but it is not my right to become critical of the fellow FC owners ideas or taste or to try and JUDGE them.. Only GOD can Judge me!

jdmluver

I dont think neverenough has coilovers up front on his Fc or did he have coil overs because i want those same wheels.

jdmluver

I thought that never enough had stock shocks and springs when he put this side of a wheel on his fc up front.

Half Jap Boost Junky

Here comes another one.

OK, I'm good with Gram lights 57 Pro 17x10 +25 275/40/17 right?

Now for the front.....17x7 or 17x8 +40? 225 or 235/45/17?

What do you think?

Infini IV

^^ +40 offset in the front will not allow you to run an 8" wide wheel.

RETed

I didn't think I was condescending...
You stuck your nose in this thread, and you should be prepared for criticism.
I think it's YOU who has some kinda chip on your shoulder who thinks they can do no wrong and then gets insulted cause someone else (me) does not agree with you.


Reread what I said...
I did NOT say you CANNOT do that.
I recommend against it.
There's a BIG difference.

It's like my argument on AC forums - don't bother changing the world cause people are going to do whatever they want to do.
I gave my opinion that I think your set-up is dangerous on the road.
I did not say you cannot do it.


*I* did NOT personally call you "stupid".
I put it in quotes "stupid" cause I know OTHER people who would think it is stupid.
Go for it - put your 19's on your FC.
Do you think 100% of the people will think it's "cool"?
I put money someone will think it's "stupid".


DUDE, you're ASSUMING no one has done it before.
I've *SEEN* 20's on an FC.
So does that make you inferior and small?
No.
I was just showing you a pic that a friend had 19's on his FC.
So it's BEEN done before you even attempted it yourself.
Which makes your assumption FALSE.

You need to go reread some of your **** that you, yourself, posted...
If I read that right, you don't know of anyone who has done 19's on an FC.
I was just showing you a pic of someone who has done 19's on an FC's.
If you got a clue on wheel sizing and offset, the 19" diameter has NOTHING to do with fitting the rim onto the car.
It's all about offset and width.
Whether you wanna run 13" Daytons or 26" bling bling diamond-cut shiznits, it's still all about rim width and offset.
THE 19" RIM DIAMETER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FITMENT.


If I was bad-mouthing you, you would've known it.
This was just a prod in your ribs.
You take **** too seriously.
If you didn't give a **** about what others thing, WHY THE **** ARE YOU MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT MY COMMENTS?
That's right - who cares what anyone else thinks - it's your ride, and if you're happy screw everyone else.

Like I said, I think you're a little think skinned and taking my comments too seriously.
Dude, get a life...
I dunno who you are, but you're making a big deal about giving you respect.
This tirade is not working; it makes you look like a whiney punk kid.

I'm trying to prevent some other ignorant soul who can think they can put 19's on their FC and think nothing bad is going to happen...
I really don't care what you think; I know you're going to do no matter what I say anyways...RIGHT?


-Ted

YearsOfDecay

holy chryst Ted... somebody peed in your poi this morning, eh???????

I tend to agree with Ted about 19's being just to big for an FC.. I'm just a bit less militant about it

I used to be an inspection Mechanic here in PA.. so i've seen a LOT of stupid things that people have done with wheels/tires either trying to get more performance out of their car, or just trying to look cool....

However, I don't think your being stupid, you using your head and doing the research before you go out and slap a set of bling blings on your car. I don't agree with your choice of 19's, but, thats YOUR choice, not mine. I'm telling you what you may be up against and what you can expect. I hope they work great for you. really.

Bottom line with the 19's is this: To get a tire to fit the rim, and rim to fit the car is really hard right now. The car was designed to run a tire with about a 25 inch diameter to it.. if you can find a tire with the right aspect ratio to get close to 25 inches.. its going to be REALLY skinny (sidwall) and thus is not going to take hard hits as well as even an 18 would. You could go with something with a bigger sidewall, but then the odometer is off, the gear ratio of the car has been changed, the center of gravity of the car is lifted and the fronts may actually bottom out on the top of the fender (ever look up there.... aint much room for movement...

You've already found out one of the problems with a lot of wheels larger than 17 inch... they are usually not offered in offsets and widths that will fit out cars!!!!! (Boxing the swingarm to get a tire/wheel to fit is ludicrous in my book, but, if you have the skills, patience and time to do it and maintain the structural integrity of the swingarm.. by all means go for it!!!!)

as far as performance goes... once you get to the 18" wheels and up.. you are getting into a place where the limitations of the thin tires and heavier wheel are going to adversely affect the performance of the vehicle to a point where it offests the benifits of the low profile sidewalls. wheel weight goes up, bump absorption of the tire goes down, ride harshness gets to a point where the car is like riding on roller skate wheels, things of that nature..

BUT, the wheels you've orderd should fit , and you've already resigned yourself to make any changes to the vehicle necessary to make them fit if the don't.. so no problem,

After you get 'em on.. please post a writeup on how they handle, ride quality and all that good stuff for otheres who may be looking at getting 19's

RETed

Yeah, maybe...
Busted my *** at work yesterday and my fish tank is having a minor crisis...
DOH!


-Ted

neverenough

I had stock suspension and I just upgraded to tokikohp and racing beat springs but still basically stock size spring diameter. All that I needed was a 5/16th spacer up front.The wheels are avalible at discounttiredirect.com for 117.00 each front and rear. They are MB Motorsports VR16.

YearsOfDecay

Your wheels look good... now get rid of that ungodly fender gap LOL!!!!!!

neverenough

The springs helped alot need to get more pics. It is still needs a motor and trans and exhaust so it will come down alot more. My money tree is in need of water or maybe fertilizer but soon it will be finished.

Half Jap Boost Junky

Ok, sorry for going back in forth but I need the input.

Gram Light 57c in Gunmetal
17X7.5 +40 offset in front
17X9.5 +38 offset in rear

Also, will a 275 look ok on the 9.5 in the rear. I'd like to keep the side wall of the tire flush with the rim if I can.

Thanks again for all the help.....

igottafc

iTrader: (6)

im looking into going mud bogging with my FC. I was wondering, can i get 36"x22" tires to fit on the stock T2 rims w/o rubbing? im concerned that the tire wont even fit in the wheel well nor will i be able to turn, i hope the dirt trails dont curve

The Griffin

You will only get a 225/45 to fit the front,but since it's a 7.5 in. rim that's about as wide as you want to go anyways,it may be tight against the strut though as I have 225/45's on a 17x8-35mm offset rim and its close.Also depends if you are using coilovers,as the collar position can actually give you less space.The rears should work with 275/40's ,but you really are getting too much stagger with that combo, 255/40's would be a better choice.

YearsOfDecay

WILL NOT FIT ON THE REAR........ You'll hit the swingarm with the tire if you run anything bigger than a 255 and a 255 might rub or hit.. .... need an offset like +30..

AsianFlip06

Will 17x7 with 43 offset work and what is the max tire size i should run? Or should i just wait 60-90 days for the 17x8 28offset to come in? The car is going to get lowered bout 1.4in in the front so so let me know what is the best route right now. Thanks

fstrnyou

double post

fstrnyou

First thing is, 9.5 won't fit. 9" barely do fit.
Second thing, how accurate do you want your speedo to be?

every tire manufacturer is different, so these numbers are only for reference
i can't find any tires with a 35 sidewall
275/40-17 is 20mm taller than stock -- speedo will read waay slow
265/40-17 is 12mm taller
235/45-17 is 11.5mm taller
255/40-17 is 4mm taller
225/45-17 is 2.5mm taller

the 225(f)255(r) would be the best choice for speedometer accuracy and you would need 7" and 8.5" rims
235(f)265(r) would need 7.5" and 9"
*kumho 712's and dunlop sp sport 9000's come in all four sizes

hope this helps....

turbo80cid

Kumho Ecsta MX tires are a lot closer to stock dia. than those
205/55-16 (stock) Dia. 25.1"/637.54mm
255/40-17 Dia. 25.1"/637.54mm
275/40-17 Dia. 25.7"/652.78mm

245/40-17 Dia. 25.5"/647.7mm
235/45-17 Dia. 25.5"/647.7mm
225/45-17 Dia.25.1"/637.54mm

raising arizona

9.5" w/ 275-40 will fit on the FC... I have this on my car w/ +33mm offset...




Getting back to tyres, I installedmy RT-615 Falken's today... they are really blocky tyres and are much tighter than my P-zero's, so as I discussed pages ago, tyres do vary in contour. I was lucky these fit. They seem taller as well, but then again there wasn't much left of the P-z's.... I'll never be able to fit the RT-615's in a 235 size so I'm glad I bought the 225.....(upfront) Just watch out for this sort of thing

The Griffin

Are those with the RPF1's? the 17x9.5's come in only a +38mm offset(in north america at least). Do you need a 5mm spacer to clear the swingarm? cheers