Madrx7racer

well, i can't figure out where to look...i dont have a thing to translate

Carl Byck

Bozz is in Norcal, Fremont I think.

HyperRex

Don't know much about Bozz. I searched "Bozz Performance" and found both their web site, and a website that says Bozz sucks or something of that nature. They looked very professional at SEMA in 2003 though. They appeared to be well-funded.

ScrappyDoo

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Excellent thread, I watched my bodyman do my wide-body and he followed much the same method, but he welded rather than riveted but I agree it makes no difference since they are not visible.

I am wondering about how you plan on covering the exterior rivets you plan on using. Are you going to spread them out evenly and just paint them or filler over them first.

Carl Byck

Be careful, when molding the flares. If you use too little filler, when you do your final paint the filler will expand slightly(even properly sealed), and the rivets, and the edge where the flare meets sheet metal will show. Be sure to completely cover the rivets with filler after grinding them down, also carry the filler all the way to the leading edge of the tail light opening. I learned this the hard way on my widebody. I was trying to use as little filler as possible, and it blew up on me literally. Carl

FCNAred

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there is no plan to mold the rears, just rivot and paint

digitalsolo

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Bozz, or the Bozz sucks people were well funded?

Looks great. I've been thinking of going widebody on my 7 also. I just need a way to fit some bigger meats (335 or so) under the back, and this is a pretty good indicator that it's not too bad a task, should be doable by my friends and I.

Beautiful car BTW.

HyperRex

I just found this link on rxecret7. They don't list the FC parts, however. I checked my records and I actually paid a bit over 4K for the kit and spoiler when I bought it, not $3500. Their prices appear to be right in line. The front bumper with the headlights is just killer expensive. It's also worth it. The bumper itself has a cutout for the lights, so visibility is really good. A lot of drop in "conversions" don't actually provide a lot of useable light. I've never done business with rxecret7, but I think I talked to that guy once or twice. He seemed really cool. I'm sure you guys on the forum know more than me.

HyperRex

Actually, if you can help it, don't use body killer at all. I've used a flexible bonding epoxy before and sanded it to match. When I did that job, however, I didn't use rivets. I used a big bead of Duramix to glue the fender on, and sheet metal screws to secure it in place. After the Duramix cured, I backed the sheet metal screws out and patched over the holes. Fenders are always going to flex while driving. Still, that's a good point, Carl. You need to overlap the panel when you blend it in. I'm not sure about a thick layer of body filler, however. As a rule of thumb, you're not supposed to use a layer thicker than 1/8". Still, there are other fillers than just Bondo. They sell semi-flex stuff, and stuff with a lot of long hair fiberglass in it, so the rule of thumb doesn't always apply.

Again, I'm being practical and just leaving the rivets showing. Painted, it doesn't look so bad. The Signal Auto 180sx and the Team Julius cars we had here in Hawaii had painted rivets, and you really couldn't tell. Come to think of it, Kazama's Kei Office car was like that too. Until I saw those cars, I wouldn't have considered painting over the rivets. Really, it wasn't too noticeable.

HyperRex

A couple people emailed me asking where they can get the rear flares. I got mine through a friend in Japan, and he doesn't actually sell parts. I did, however, find the same part listed on the Raretrick website. Again, I haven't done business with these people, but it's an avenue you can explore. I have the 50mm flares. Kell with the S2000 powered FC has the 30mm flares. BTW, the 50mm ones come with a piece that fits over the gas tank door. The 30mm does not.

HyperRex

*whew* Rims finally arrived. It took 6 months. I put off mounting the fenders permanently until my wheels came in just in case I had to do more bodywork or modifications. I still have some leeway as to how I can attach the fenders. Also, I have some leeway on what tires to run as different sizes have different sidewall profiles.











The wheels are Volk SF-Challenges 19x10.5, -9 offset for the rear, and 19x9.5, -3 offset for the front. The black face color is an option, but it's a special order and they charge for it. I went with black because Volk rims tend to spawn knock-offs very quickly. In fact, they already make fake SF-Challenges. The real Volks have a special design where the rectangles and Volk logo around the inner edge are embossed and polished. This is better than having rivets, IMHO, because a lot of knock-off companies now replicate that look using stickers that look like rivets on the outside edge of their 1-piece, cast wheels. On the other hand, Volk paints the centers and then machines off the top layer of paint before clearing over it - a process that's not duplicated cheaply. From the test fitting, it looks like I'll be running 245-35-19 tires in front, and 275-30-19's in the rear. Clearance is super, super close, but then, I measured them out that way for minimum gap and maximum dish. The dish on the rims measure a true 4" and front and 5" in the rear. I figure, if you are going to order custom rims, you might as well go for the gand slam. =)

I'll paint next week, I suppose.

owen is fat

all of that work and you are just gonna run tires as wide as someone could with stock bodywork, yeah I see yours are 19"ers though. Still, I'm surprised you cant fit more width in there but maybe the 19" wheel has a tire height that makes it difficult?

I give you props for posting this on the forum, its guys like you who share info with great pics that really help people out. I'm so tempted to widebody my FC, mostly to put the power to the ground (LS1 swap) I'm in need of 315's out back on an 11" wheel. With only the money for the widebody and DIY installation so far, I'm gonna put it off until I can afford some 17x10 front and 17x11 rear wheels like those from CCW or possibly some SuperAdvans.

Nice thread! your car is lookin' great! keep on updating us!

86J

Good post but is there someone out there thats willing to host the pictures. It could just be me b/c all I see is red X's, on the first page atleast.

RussinStk

What options for flares to fit 16 X 12 wheel, beyond Tri-point Engr? What is the mm size need for 16X12s?

Thanks

HyperRex

Yikes! The pictures on the front page disappeared! I uploaded them onto rx7club instead of hosting them myself because I figured that rx7club would generally display faster. I guess the pictures expired? I'd like to edit the front page posts to link to my pics, but there's no edit button. I think that disappears after awhile also? Maybe I'll make a web page and link the page when I have time.

Owen: Thanks for the compliments man. Yeah, I'm not running anywhere near as wide a tire as I can. I probably won't until much later. Originally, the plan was to stuff 315's in there asI used to have a 3-rotor for the car. I had a bunch of stuff happen, and consequently, that plan got shelved and I really don't know when I'll ever get around to finishing it. So for right now, I don't need big tires. I just went out and bought cool rims. Actually, for SF-Challenges there wasn't much of a choice anyway since they're not regularly offered wider than 10.5. It's not a waste though. Almost no one making huge power has only one set of rims. A set for the street and (likely) more than one set for racing is pretty common. I'll get around to that if I get around to finishing my engine.