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VERT Owners - review of Yokahama's new Tire line

Old Mar 31, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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VERT Owners - review of Yokahama's new Tire line

Hey Convertible Owners,

I've been running one of Yokahama's new tire lines for ~2 months now on the stock convertible BBS rims and have a little review for you. These run ~$72/ea at tirerack.com

I bought the Yokohama AVS dB S2 which replaced my Yokohama AVS Intermediate's. The old Yokahama AVS's had good grip, decent "damp" traction, lousy "heavy water" traction, and were a bit noisy.

The old ones never hydroplaned, but kept "moving around" in wet weather and felt very "un-nerving" when in heavy water.

The new AVS db S2's are a vast improvement. These are directional tires and have an ultra-sticky center section, dual "aqua channels" for much improved wet traction, and good "ribbed" sides for strong cornering.

The "db" in the name means low decibel / low noise. While they're definitely not a "luxury tire", the NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) is much improved. I've combined these with the Convertible specific Racing Beat springs & Tokico non-adjustable shocks. At the handling limits the cars fairly neutral.

I've tried these tires in, wet, dry, flooding, and icey condtions. Best all-weather tires I've owned to date.

Here's some of their literature:



On a side note with the Racing Beat Suspension, the Racing Beat setup is a vast improvement over stock but I still haven't corrected allot of "minor issues" like:
- I still haven't correct my Caster issue in the rear. Tires wear normally though.
- Caster is 1.7 degrees off on both sides, and the Racing Beat adjustable caster link only provide 0.7 degrees correction
- Racing Beat says to fix the rear caster you have to move the upper sublink mounting position upwards (ie cut & grind) and buy their adjustable caster/sublink)
- Hitting a bump at the tire's handling limits my car gets out of balance with the off caster. Also the off caster adds to the "convertible cowl shake" a bit.
- The Tokico shocks aren't 100% compatible with the new Racing Beat Convertible specific springs. I'm still getting a very loud "pop/knock" on both sides everytime I hit a pothole or drive-up a steep driveway. Can't tell if the springs or shocks are rubbing on the tires OR.. since I didn't cut the "bump stops" the front shocks are pre-maturely bottoming out and knocking. I see no wear on the inner sidewalls and no obvious marks when I dis-assemble the
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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That's a nice looking tire! And not a bad price either.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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when I had 15's I ran nitto 450s and loved them all around. I now have 17 inch kumhos and they seem grippier. Might me the 2 inch difference in wheel size tho. Do yourself a favor and ditch the 15's and uprade those with your shocks and springs and the car feels like its a new one
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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I had the dB S2 on my old 91 N/A in the stock 205/60-15 size. I liked them a lot. Decent performance and they were extremely quiet. They lasted around 20K miles before I had to put on a new set.

And caster isn't adjustable in the rear. You meant to say camber.

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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Have you tried any Kumho tires? I'd be interested to see how these compare to the Kumhos I have on my 'vert right now :O
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Yeah those AVS dB S2 are just a rip off/copy of the old Falken ST-115 design
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Rotary owners love cheaper knockoffs if they're good quality.

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I doubt this is a high grip tire, the shoulder block is pretty small.
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