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Old 07-14-03, 10:04 AM
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time for all new suspension goodies, need help though

alrighty its time for my garbage *** stock crap to come off the FD. all suspension as of right now is stock, minus a cusco strut bar. here is what i want to do but its always wise to get some insight from the veteran crowd.
i have 6 pillowball mounts for the rear end from my birthday. those will go in at the same time of everything.
broken PPF that was welded up by a friend. all welds were perpindicular to the cracks to reinforce.
im going to look at some ground control co's with (this is where i will need some help) stiff spring rates. ive heard that 550/350 is pretty much the way to go but read that maxcooper prefers 450/350(we have spoke about this a few times max). im not worried about stiff ride as i also have a full suspension crx. GC's that are 400/600 with AGX shocks, soon to be koni yellows, etc... also what length should i get for the springs on the CO's that will be mated to koni yellows. shoudl i worry about the length since the yelllows have the three perch settings? i also heard there are two different diameter springs. should i get the narrower spring or the wider one? im not looking into REAL CO's because i dont want to wait weeks for a new one when and if they go bad. this is a street car with PERFORMANCE in mind.
im going to get the trailing arms and toe links. any reccomendations on which to get since so many are out now?
i think that might hold me over for short bit. id like to have a tad bit more over steer than usual. please, anything you say can help
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Old 07-14-03, 01:52 PM
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Sounds like you've got it pretty much figured out .

I'm running Tanabe Sustec Pro SS Coilovers, with spring rates of 559 front and 449 rear and absolutely love them. Car handles like a dream on Motorsport Ranch, a local road course.
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i have been toying with the idea of 550/450(just about what you have). i dont want it to be soft thats for sure. i dont mind a bouncier rougher ride. i kinda enjoy that more because i feel that i get more feedback from the road. this is what i think happens with spring rates, please correct me if im wrong.
550/350 will give more understeer compared to the next two.
450/350 corrects the understeer and helps you turn in better but makes the ride softer
550/450 will give you the stiff ride and the 450 will bring oversteer back into the equation by not haveing a 350 rear.
im not too sure if this is correct, but its what i think. let me have it, right or wrong. maybe close.
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You're not too far off the mark.

550/450 would likely be the max you'd want to go wrt spring rates. Most people want to dial out the FD's tail-happiness .. so lowering the rear spring rate is not a bad way of doing this. Since you have the Koni Yellows, I'd say be careful that you don't overdamp the shocks. If you're not heavy into auto-x or track racing, I would recommend going with a little softer spring rate .... for your teeth's sake.
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im extremely heavy into autoxing. i won ASP last year with mostly power mods(no suspension or tires). didnt win by much, but nonetheless. i would love to get my lazy *** out to laguna seca, thunderhill, and buttonwillow here in CA. like i said, im not afraid of losing ride quality. ill just take a pack of gum with me whenever i drive so i have something to soften the teeth chatter.
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im planning on going with the 550/450 after thinking about it. if for some reason i just dont like the setup will the 450's be able to move to the front and would i just be able to buy new 350's for the rear? i know it can be done on hondas. also, is there any reason why i shouldnt get the regular length springs that GC provides?
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