kevinvr6

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I'm trying to put on a set of 17" volk GTC face-1, 17x8" +41

My muteki tuner lug nuts can't seem to reach the studs. I believe the stocks are 1.25" or something like that?

What do I need to do to get these to fit?

And if I do need longer studs, will I have any problems mounting my stock wheels, donut? or doesnt matter?

Thanks

kevinvr6

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anybody?

p4nc7

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I doubt longer studs will affect anything..so go for it..lol It'll just stick out more with the stockers..

7racer

I'm confused to what is happening. When you say the lug won't reach the stud. Do you mean the lug won't seat into the wheel?

Your wheel offset looks fine and it should fit. Unless someone modified your wheel studs it shouldn't be a problem. Do the stock lugs fit?

Please take a picture if you can.

kevinvr6

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I'm sorry if I was not clear with my first post.

The center of the GT-C is so 'thick' that the studs do not stick out far enough for my lug nuts to catch the threads. The lug nuts I have fit fine into the holes of the wheel, its the studs that don't come out far enough.

And I'm assuming I will need longer studs, will I need open ended nuts to accomodate the excess stud when switching back to stock wheels?


Does anyone know the specs of the stock studs. I'm unsure how much longer of a stud I will need, right now the nuts fit snug deep into the wheel and still cannot catch the stud, maybe another inch I'd need? argh I don't know..

Thanks!

7racer

someone must have altered the studs. The fitment on Rays website looks correct and in that size the "pad height" is disk "A" which isn't suppose to be that thick. Is it the same four all for of your wheels?

kevinvr6

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Yea my car is pretty much stock. The stud lengths are all the same for all 4 sides of the vehicle. I don't know if this matters, but I bought these rims off some guy that had them on a 240SX.

7racer

then I would double check the offsets and pad height. They obviously are wrong for the FD if they can't fit with the stock studs

7racer

what do the stickers say on the inside of the rim?

kevinvr6

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here's a snap from inside the rim

kevinvr6

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can anyone help?

dclin

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Post pics of the hub mounting surface (at an angle). I saw a set of Manarays on a local FD that had spacers welded to the wheel a few years back.

7racer

I agree, it has to be something with the studs (someone cut them short) or adding a spacer. The wheel specs look correct.

7racer

also, did you have stock wheels on it before?

kevinvr6

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Yes I believe the car has only been on stockers for the life of the car. It's whats on it right now..

BC-FD3S

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Is the Center Bore correct? Are you using wrong hub concentric ring?

kevinvr6

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not really sure what all that means....

ptrhahn

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If the centerbore and/or hubcentric ring are too small, it could mean the wheel isn't all the way on. Is the back of the wheel mounting face touching the brake rotor hat surface?

kevinvr6

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yes its flush right up onto the rotor! =o[

kevinvr6

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Ok I finally got around to ripping my stockers off to take some pics of the whole situation.

Here's a snap of the hub



Now here's a pic of the studs and measuring tape, is this what stock length supposed to be? A little over an inch.



Lastly, a pic of the volks on with the studs barely poking through. I cannot even get one revolution of the threads with tuner lugnuts



Help!

7racer

Kevin the stud length looks correct but my car is getting tuned so I can't measure them. When you put the wheels on you say the spokes hit the brake calipers?

kevinvr6

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No it clears the brakes perfectly!

7racer

hmmm

looking over Ray's fitment guide on the japanese version has this.

It seems they recommend 17x8 +35 disk A for the Front
17x9 +43 Disk B for the rear

the 17x9 +41 that you have looks to have too much pad height. Short of getting longer studs you are probably out of luck.

kevinvr6

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Ah crap, thanks for finding those specs for me. I guess either I'll look for a new set of wheels or just bang the studs out. Do you know if there are any ill effects to running longer studs? Integrity-wise.. Never knew offset had anything to do with the thickness of the pad of the wheels

Hmm I also don't remember if I've tried mounting in the rear hubs, does that fitment mean the the wheels should fit on the rears?



Thanks =o]

7racer

Yup it should fit on the rears.

In regards to pad height it is just the amount of "meat" that allows the spokes of the wheels to clear the brake caliper. That is you can have the same offset but different pad heights.

I always take the fitment recommended by Rays with a grain of salt as the +35 seems too low. However, looking at the disk A for your 17x9 +41 it seems the pad height is too high (which is unusual)

It really is perplexing. Definitely try them on the rears and just for good measure, measure the stud length on the rears also. They should be the same...

Also, it's a PITA to get the hub off to put new studs in...do a search for DamonB's post. The front are easier than the rears however. About running longer studs...I'm not sure and I would leave that question for one of the wheel experts.