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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Question Question about STI BBS rims!

I was wondering, would the gold BBS rims on the new STI fit on the FD? I love the way they look, and they are 18's. This would be a great rim to have on the FD since they are BBS's and all.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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anyone?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 03:20 AM
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You might get more help if you posted the sizes and offsets of the wheels. I'm guessing that they won't fit or be worth it because of width.

Besides, what's so great about BBS? They make some nice spec racing wheels but most of their street wheels are very heavy and over-priced IMO....

I'm not even going to comment on the fact that the wheels are gold....
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 03:24 AM
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They're 17's. And they run a 225 tire. I THINK they're only 7-7.5" wide which doesn't make sense on a FD. And don't they run that weird-*** 53mm offset?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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I have an STI and the wheels are 17"x 7.5". They have a wierd offset because they are an all wheel drive car. Thos rims will not fit on the fd. Go to a wheel shop and look at some rims, I'm pretty sure that you will find some that look identical to the sti for cheap.

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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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the bolt pattern are subari specific...
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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i c, thanks guys!
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Has anyone tried the 05+ STi BBS's. They are 5x114.3 53et 17x8 ~19lbs. Will this work?
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheers!
the bolt pattern are subari specific...
that should answer ya.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by s1mpsons
Has anyone tried the 05+ STi BBS's. They are 5x114.3 53et 17x8 ~19lbs. Will this work?
This is the only correct and helpful answer in here.

Yes, they should fit fine on an FD. The only difference may be the center bore, but the FD has a relative small one so it would probably be ok (I dont know the STI center bore). Worst case you can have a machine shop fix it for relatively cheap.

You will however have sunk *** wheels unless you use spacers.

Yes on the normal WRX (and 04 STI) the bolt pattern is 5x100 which is not some Subaru specific size, other manufacturers use it as well (like Toyota and VW). But the 05+ STI is 5x114.3
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Originally Posted by dean23
that should answer ya.
Umm. No sir. 05+ STi has the same bolt pattern as 87-02 RX7s.

Originally Posted by burtoncr
This is the only correct and helpful answer in here.

Yes, they should fit fine on an FD. The only difference may be the center bore, but the FD has a relative small one so it would probably be ok (I dont know the STI center bore). Worst case you can have a machine shop fix it for relatively cheap.

You will however have sunk *** wheels unless you use spacers.

Yes on the normal WRX (and 04 STI) the bolt pattern is 5x100 which is not some Subaru specific size, other manufacturers use it as well (like Toyota and VW). But the 05+ STI is 5x114.3
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My thought there was maybe some rear spacers in the rear. Although the wheel/tire sizing spreadsheet shows I would have a lot of clearance with this offset/size and it looks like that would allow for a uber wide tire My only concern is that the spreadsheet doesn't specify caliper clearance. The 52mm offset would bring the spokes closer to the calipers by 3mm. Is there enough clearance?
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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Question was regarding NEW (MY08) STI: 18x8.5 5x114 +55

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2008-sti...-offset-2.html

Don't know what center bore is, but based on previous years, it's probably 56.1mm. FD is 67.1mm

As mentioned above, all Imprezas/WRXs are 5x100. All STI's from MY05+ are 5x114 however. Whey they don't just switch all their cars to 5x114, I don't know. Neons and many VWs are also 5x100.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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STI's have very large brakes (large rotors and large opposing piston calipers), so I doubt that caliper clearance will be an issue.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
STI's have very large brakes (large rotors and large opposing piston calipers), so I doubt that caliper clearance will be an issue.
It would depend more on the mounting position of the caliper and how far into the wheel well the rotor surface is placed relative to the hub/studs.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dclin
Don't know what center bore is, but based on previous years, it's probably 56.1mm. FD is 67.1mm
So, is this bore compatible?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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That would be a no, since the hole is smaller than what you're trying to put in it.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Is the bore the hole clearance for the stud to pass through the wheel?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dclin
Question was regarding NEW (MY08) STI: 18x8.5 5x114 +55
but those are a $3000 option above and beyond the price of the new 08 STI so I doubt you will find a set for cheap, or at least at a price that makes that wheel a wise purchase in comparison to so many other wheels out there that fit FDs and are as strong and as light.

plus that offset is lame as hell for an FD with 8.5" wide wheels.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Can a machine show bore out the 56 to a 67.1 (or greater) for me? This should be ok. Just curious if this is a costly process?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by s1mpsons
Is the bore the hole clearance for the stud to pass through the wheel?
No, it's in the center of the wheel where the little lip on the hub passes through to center the wheel.

Originally Posted by s1mpsons
Can a machine shop bore out the 56 to a 67.1 (or greater) for me? This should be ok. Just curious if this is a costly process?
Maybe, it really depends on the construction of the wheel. It's probably ok, but it's not a given. It shouldn't cost too too much, couple hundred maybe?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
No, it's in the center of the wheel where the little lip on the hub passes through to center the wheel.

Maybe, it really depends on the construction of the wheel. It's probably ok, but it's not a given. It shouldn't cost too too much, couple hundred maybe?
OEM STi BBSs are forged. I would think machining them would be OK. It's simply a continuation of the forging process. Couple hundred $ is too much though.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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That's not what I meant, what I meant is that there may not be enough metal there to safely machine it out. Probably not an issue, but who knows.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
That's not what I meant, what I meant is that there may not be enough metal there to safely machine it out. Probably not an issue, but who knows.
I think your right. Might not be enough clearance to the between the hub bore and the lug bore to safely machine it to 67.1mm.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by owen is fat
but those are a $3000 option above and beyond the price of the new 08 STI so I doubt you will find a set for cheap, or at least at a price that makes that wheel a wise purchase in comparison to so many other wheels out there that fit FDs and are as strong and as light.

plus that offset is lame as hell for an FD with 8.5" wide wheels.
Never said it was a cost-effective option or made any sense; simply answering the question that apparently nobody read carefully or answered directly.

The front spacing should be exactly the same as the stock FD; the wheels, if not for the centerbore issue, would have fit fine. Aesthetics are another matter, and I'll leave it to others to figure out how to spend their money wisely. Not my money, not my decision.
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