problem with my FD specific CCW racing wheels. please help
i hope nobody get mad cause i posted here but its and FD specific question.. my CCW classic wheels are machined weird and ccw says its normal.. well the center cap holes and lug holes were machined out so close together that the walls between the lug holes an center cap hole are paper thin and in some spots missing aluminum and is a hole right through.. the owner of ccw said it was normal for fd rx-7's.. he said right after he would take the wheels back and make new ones.. he said he would machine the center cap hole smaller and the obviously the cap as well.. shady business if you ask me.. now i would LOVE to hear what other people with the same wheels have to say.. please guys write whatever small or large..
these wheels also came with scuffed lips and 2 trashed center caps.. poor polishing quality.. im just over all mad because 2,500 bucks is alot for shoty work
these wheels also came with scuffed lips and 2 trashed center caps.. poor polishing quality.. im just over all mad because 2,500 bucks is alot for shoty work
theres no need for pictures, its pretty easy to understand.. i have one pic but i dont think you can see it anyway.. does anyone have these wheels?
they are the street version of the wheel withh a center cap unlike the race model
they are the street version of the wheel withh a center cap unlike the race model
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u cant see from tht pic but the center cap is machined so close to the lug holes the walls between are paper thing.. john at ccw said its like that on all FD's unless there race model without caps..
Is there any reason to think that your set is any different from the zillion other one's John's made for these cars? There's alot of folks using them, and i've never heard of issues.
I see what he means. The center cap hole is ALMOST overlapping the holes for the lug nuts. Imagine if the center cap was removed, the wall between the center cap hole and the lugnut hole area is basically touching each other. I bet if you were to push the wall with your fingers, it would just break.
see attachment, this is what he means. It's so close that the walls are gone because of hole overlapping.
I'm pretty sure the integrity of the wheel is not weakened, but it is shady-like work for a very costly wheel.
I'm pretty sure the integrity of the wheel is not weakened, but it is shady-like work for a very costly wheel.
Guys,
The FD bolt circle diameter is what it is, and the centerbore is what it is. If these wheels fit the car, and there's nothing different about them than the umpteen zillion other sets that have been made for the car, I don't see what the problem is.
The FD bolt circle diameter is what it is, and the centerbore is what it is. If these wheels fit the car, and there's nothing different about them than the umpteen zillion other sets that have been made for the car, I don't see what the problem is.
And per CCW's website:
Race version wheels are not machined to accept center caps as most tracks will not allow you to run them. The center forgings are then machined to be hub centric. Street version wheels are machined larger to accept our billet center caps that are hubcentric. Center forgings and center caps are vehicle specific as hub sizes vary.
Hmmm.. looks like CCW wheels are made bit differently than other wheels. If you use the street version of the wheel, the center cap ACT as the hub centric portion which is pretty odd. Since that is the case, no wonder the hole is so huge!!
Check out this street version of the wheel for the FD (Inside face of the wheel):

Basically, the center of the wheel is bored all the way from the inside face to the outside face.
The center cap is larger than the bore size, wow.
Most other manufactures machine out the hub centric portion separate from the center cap portion.
Check out this street version of the wheel for the FD (Inside face of the wheel):

Basically, the center of the wheel is bored all the way from the inside face to the outside face.
The center cap is larger than the bore size, wow.
Most other manufactures machine out the hub centric portion separate from the center cap portion.
Last edited by RIMTUCK; Dec 24, 2008 at 05:02 PM.
The outside face lug hole area is larger to compensate for the socket of the wrench.
This side is only to show how the center cap is constructed in the CCW wheels.
Sorry, but I don't know how to say this another way: This is a non-issue. They've been making these wheels this way for FDs for the better part of a decade, and they've been one of the most popular track wheels over the year. There's plenty of material there back where the lug nut contacts the wheel, which is what counts... not up by the cap.
right on the money.. this is just what im talking about.. the race model is not like that.. i spoke to john at ccw for an hour about it.. it can be changed however this is how its been done for years.. if you make the center bore smaller he would have to make the cap smaller too which would most likely defort the cap if done.. so john said.. to me its a better design but im not expert
I see what he means. The center cap hole is ALMOST overlapping the holes for the lug nuts. Imagine if the center cap was removed, the wall between the center cap hole and the lugnut hole area is basically touching each other. I bet if you were to push the wall with your fingers, it would just break.
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