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Lowering springs that work with wide tires (not coilovers)

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Old 08-11-04, 12:29 AM
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Lowering springs that work with wide tires (not coilovers)

I am now running 255/40/17 and 275/40/17 tires with 17x9 and 17x10 wheels

The car sits way too high.. it needs a good drop front and rear. I have heard nothing but problems with the racing beat springs and wider tires. I have heard good things about the H&R springs that they work well with a wider wheel/tire setup.

I cant justify the $1500 for coilovers, so it looks like I need just springs.

any advice is appreciated.

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look at my sig, this car needs lowered a bit!
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What are the offset of the the wheels up front? With 255/40, they're going to have to be close to stock (+50) to avoid rubbing w/ aftermarket springs, otherwise, I'd roll the fenders or go w/ coilovers.

I have H&R Sport springs, 17x8.5 - 245/40-17 front, 17x10 - 275/40-17 rear, no rubbing.
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I plan on rolling the fenders
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Oh wow. I'm not so sure if this will clear with rolled fenders. I'm aware of a mid 40 to work with a drop. Can you please explain "work well with wider tire". I know many spring manufacturers in Japan and maybe can help. If you can explain the negative effects the racing beat had or what your primary concerns is that would really help me at least.

Currently here in US you have companies like RS*R and Espelir from japan. These springs are pretty good price too. Some are linear. Then the standard euro springs eibach and hr.
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Originally Posted by Endless Work

Can you please explain "work well with wider tire".
255/40-17

If you can explain the negative effects the racing beat had or what your primary concerns is that would really help me at least.
RB springs are too soft.

https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/my-experience-racing-beat-springs-255-40-17s-287422/

Currently here in US you have companies like RS*R and Espelir from japan. These springs are pretty good price too. Some are linear. Then the standard euro springs eibach and hr.
It won't make a difference. Low offset + wide tires = rubbing
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I have pics of my car in the third gen section with my car on Tein springs and Koni yellows. Its a pretty good drop and I'm very happy with the handling/looks.

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My offsets are also in that thread.. +37 front +44 rear
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It sounds to me like you're answering your own question. If you know the low offset along with your wide tire is gonna rub, no matter what. Are you looking for very high spring rates that are OE style? I'm not sure, but these Japanese companies would be the ones who would make some spring rate options. RS*R has a race spring.

Please indicate around what values you are looking for in springs. Considering you know it's gonna rub no matter what.
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Originally Posted by Endless Work

It sounds to me like you're answering your own question. If you know the low offset along with your wide tire is gonna rub, no matter what. Are you looking for very high spring rates that are OE style? I'm not sure, but these Japanese companies would be the ones who would make some spring rate options. RS*R has a race spring.
*You* were the one that brought up RS*R and Espelir springs, and in reference to that, I didn't ask a question but made a statement that it doesn't matter, and for the reason mentioned above. Common sense dictates that you go w/ an offset close to or equal to stock when lowering the car and getting much wider wheels and tires.
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If you go with H&R springs, make sure you upgrade your shocks to at least the R1 or R2 Showas. PEP, Base, Touring shocks are too soft to work well with H&R springs.
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