htharv

Does anyone have experience with koni or tokico? Pros, cons?
And which springs would you recommend?

alberto_mg

check the suspension section of the forum

jeremyb

IMHO, koni... I hear of more professional racers winning track races with koni shocks and GC coilovers. But I'm also with alberto.

Jeremy

gambit023

I have Koni yellow's on my FD... i love them. I had Tokico 5-way adjustables on my CRX... i was indifferent about them.

the koni's have adjustable perches and more of a damnpening range than the Tokico's.

if you have a little more $$ to spend i would get the Koni's.

RE Suzuki

I have tokico. Its $114 each and works great.

Mahjik

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htharv,

The biggest difference is the adjustable perch of the Koni's. If you aren't going to pair the shocks up with something like the Ground Control Coilovers, the adjustable perch may be something you'll want.

Most of the track guys around me use Tokico's paired with the Ground Control Coilovers. I'm using the Tokico's with the Tein S-Tech Springs.

I'm not a huge fan of the adjustable perch. IMO, if you need to adjust the height, do it right and get coilovers.

855m0n0

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I have the Koni with the ground control setup. It is very nice. The Konis are low pressure which is very benificial. The adjustable perch is pretty much worthless. The retaining ring that holds them there can break. Konis are also rebuildable and can be revalved to suit your needs. I had mine revalved to match my 600lb springs. It makes for an awesome setup.

ManGaZeRo

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Is 15,000 miles on koni yellow with eibachs alot? How many miles do aftermarket shocks generally last for ?

855m0n0

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I had Konis on one of my cars for 40K with no issues. If you race a car you are going to need to rebuild the Konis every so often. It really depends on the shock and how you drive.

htharv

I want a good setup for daily driving. I'm not planning on tracking the car. I'm looking for a good suspension setup for a reasonable price. My biggest issue is what springs to use.

seven samurai

Hell I don't know performance wise how either perform.
I do know that tok adjust with a screwdriver and have setting points 1-5. Not sure if this has changed been a while but I believe the koni dont really have setting points just turn a **** and leave in a position. if you ask me that seems like a pain in the but cause I'm the type of person that would keep second guessing if my half turn of the **** on one side was the same on the other. Correct me if I'm wrong on the koni shocks or if they have made changes. If it has I apologize. Last time I was looking into shocks is when GAB was still around.

RX794

I've had either brand on my car, both shocks perform well, BUT I did notice that in my opinion the Koni shocks performed better, and it seems like they lasted longer as time went on. Just my 2 cents.

macdaddy

I have a heretical solution that may get me thrown off this forum <gasp>.

Probably the best setup for daily driving is stock. Pretty much anything you do to the car to "improve" the handling will degrade the comfort/convenience of the car for daily driving (expansion joints, speed bumps, etc. are not your friends). The FD with stock suspension handles better than most other cars with significant suspension mods.

The only reasons that come to my mind to mod the suspension are for competition (or competition-like conditions) or cosmetics.

Now if your shocks are busted (leaking fluid) and you have to replace them with something, that's a different story. It's pretty rare for springs to degrade significantly.

howard coleman has some interesting comments on shocks/springs you should probably read before plunking down your hard-earned $$$: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/question-lowering-my-fd-383154/

DamonB

I completely agree with you but we're certainly a minority I can say that my car with Konis on stock springs is perfectly comfy though because at full soft the Koni is slightly stiffer than the base model shocks, but softer than the R1 shocks. At full hard they are of course much stiffer than R1 shocks.

rynberg

I agree wholeheartedly with MacDaddy and DamonB. If I wasn't taking my car to the track, I would have left my suspension completely stock. Although I must admit, the sharper turn-in is nice, even in street driving. Nice enough to almost offset the stiffer ride over bigger dips/bumps.