Ground Control FC owners..ride height question
12-25-07, 01:38 AM
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Ground Control FC owners..ride height question
On the ground control website, it says that the sleeveover springs for fc's can lower the car 0 to 1.5 inches..while for most other cars can get much lower than that..just out of curiousity is 1.5 really the max? please dont flame this thread with "Why do you want to be low" and all that crap..flame on if a similar thread like this has been created..
12-25-07, 11:32 AM
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The problem is that the rears induce too much negative camber after a certain point.
So if you're looking for that "slammed in the weeds" look, it's going to wear suspension, drivetrain, and tires unnecessarily.
A rear camber adjust bar can help, but it can only adjust so much of that negative camber in the rear.
The other thing to keep in mind is that your dampers are designed to work efficiently in a certain range.
Drop the chassis down can compress them to the point that they do not work well or even damage themselves.
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So if you're looking for that "slammed in the weeds" look, it's going to wear suspension, drivetrain, and tires unnecessarily.
A rear camber adjust bar can help, but it can only adjust so much of that negative camber in the rear.
The other thing to keep in mind is that your dampers are designed to work efficiently in a certain range.
Drop the chassis down can compress them to the point that they do not work well or even damage themselves.
-Ted
12-25-07, 03:55 PM
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doing it that way will blow your rear shocks for sure.. just go with full coilovers.. you will get correct geometry and have a wide more range of adjustments... Some of these guys will tell you "coilovers are not for street and track only", well those guys dont have coilovers, but anyone with real coilovers knows and will suggest you go with em. thanks
12-25-07, 04:41 PM
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doing it that way will blow your rear shocks for sure.. just go with full coilovers.. you will get correct geometry and have a wide more range of adjustments... Some of these guys will tell you "coilovers are not for street and track only", well those guys dont have coilovers, but anyone with real coilovers knows and will suggest you go with em. thanks
12-25-07, 05:38 PM
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i have real coilovers (silkroad rma8) and i will tell you not to write off a gc sleeve set up. gc sleeves paired with a quality shock is a good set up.
it depends on the shock. going low requires a shock that damps the same regardless of where you are in shock stroke. some shocks do not perform this way, and blow when you go too low. iirc koni's advertise their shocks as having the same damping regardless of where you are on stroke. you'll have to do more research to go this route, but there's nothing wrong with the set up at all.
it depends on the shock. going low requires a shock that damps the same regardless of where you are in shock stroke. some shocks do not perform this way, and blow when you go too low. iirc koni's advertise their shocks as having the same damping regardless of where you are on stroke. you'll have to do more research to go this route, but there's nothing wrong with the set up at all.
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12-25-07, 07:38 PM
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maybe. like i said you need to do some more research on it.
regarding what i said about koni
http://www.koni-na.com/faq.cfm
that being said i don't want to say you can absolutely slam it on konis since i've never tried it myself. you might not have enough shock travel by the time you get the height where you want it. hence, more research is required.
regarding what i said about koni
http://www.koni-na.com/faq.cfm
Q: How far can I safely lower my car?
A: KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.
A: KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.
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you should go to a race shop and have the car corner weighted with you in it
you already have the pieces there, might as well get the actual engineered purpose for coilovers...
esp on a rx7 where 25% on each wheel is actually achievable....!!!!!!!!!
you already have the pieces there, might as well get the actual engineered purpose for coilovers...
esp on a rx7 where 25% on each wheel is actually achievable....!!!!!!!!!
