trainwreck517

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Alright, well I'm looking to buy some coilovers. The stock suspention is just to soft.. I get rubbing on hard corning on the inner wheel well. Even on stock tires!

So been looking at coil overs.. and I'am debating on:

Megan racing,
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/me...lover%20fd.htm

or

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/buddy%20club.htm

I'm leaning towards megan racing.. but I don't like that both spring rates for front and back are the same at 12kg/mm.

How does the car handle with those spring rates?

The buddy club has 10kg/mm in the front and 8kg/mm in the rear.

Also looked at the Apexi EXV and Greddy S.. but those don't seem to be to good.

The car will be pretty much used for weekend cayon fun, AutoXing, and track days.


Thanks for any input.. and if anyone using Megan or Buddy club.. please provide feed back.

Thanks for your time.

Mr rx-7 tt

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https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/coilover-set-up-572365/

turBRO [ArTiN]

of friend of mine is a pro drifter (Chris Milano) and is sponsored by megan racing......... he uses the track series coilovers on his S14..... he says they are awsome

megan racing has some really quality stuff.... theyr just underrated.


Buddy Club has a great rep... and great quality stuff.....




for the price i say go megan racing.... plus just looking at em side by side.. the megans look like they much more robust.... plus 10/8 on the buddy clubs is pretty damn rough... another friend of mine has coilovers with the rates 10/8 on his S13 and its a really rough ride on the freeway/high speeds/ rough roads.

wReX

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IMO 10/8 is a great setup for street/occasional track duty.... 12/12 seems way over board. Regard Buddy Club I have heard both good and bad so no real help there sorry.

I was going to get the Buddy Club at one time but they were all sold out... now I'm thinking I will just hold out for some Zeals if I end up keeping this car.

dis1

In my opinion those 12/12 spring rates will kill you and your handling. Well I have a bunch of info on different kits on my site. I'm sorry but when I did it the Megan ones weren't available. There are several new kits available actually. But you might still like what I have laid out on my site. I went with Zeal in the end and love them.

mono4lamar

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go with the megans!!! then tell me if you like them

GoRacer

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I have Buddy Club myself but the Megan Racing is a real good price. Buddy's are rebuildable here in SoCal, don't know about Reagans. Also how much to rebuild is a good question. JIC is disposable for the price they want to rebuild their units.

If that doesn't help then your setup could help decide. If you have alot wider rear you can offset that with softer rear springs. ...or is that backwards?

trainwreck517

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GoRacer, how do you like the buddy club?After thinking it over I'm leaning towards buddy club because of the offset spring rates... I think that 12/12 will make the car more tell happy then what it already is.


Does it come with pillow ball standard? Or is that a option?


My track wheels look like there going to be 245's in the front and 275's in the rear on 17" wheels. Going to run Hoosiers R6.

jolly

I am looking at the Megan Racing vs. the Ksport.

The Megan's are 12/12 spring rate

The K-Sports are 13/9

What is the stock spring rate on the FD??

ihavetwins

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from what i know off the top of my head is the megan's are replica's of apex'i EXV's

aznpoopy

ksports are garbage; don't buy them

to the original poster: going from stock suspension to 12/12 rates will probably kill you first time it rains.

iirc you can get megans with your own specified spring rate. ask your vendor if its possible. 8/6 or something along those lines is pretty standard. since you auto-x, you may want to ask a few local auto-x'rs for advice with what rates to run.

jolly

You can't say something like that without telling why. From what I've seen posted on these boards, no one has posted anything bad about either of these. Ksports are made in Japan. I think the Megans are Taiwanese.

There is alot of opinion, but few direct experiences, or only experiences with other cars, or second hand hearsay.

Anyone actually used these on a road track to be able to give an educated opinion. Street experience is basically worthless.

What are the stock spring rates for the FD?

aznpoopy

i am not an encyclopedia
do a search next time for basic info
280F 200R lb/in or 5F 3.5R kg/mm
takes about 30 seconds to look up

i have personally driven on ksports for a s14 and i opine that the ksport shock is not properly matched to the spring rates supplied with the s14 coilover.

people have blown them out very quickly (>6 months), but that s14 had them for a year and change before the rear shocks blew out. not bad for budget coilovers on NJ roads.

btw, bumpy roads > smooth track for determining quality of the shocks in a coilover set up. you want to hit a variety of uneven surfaces to get a feel for how well the shock dampers oscillation. naturally, there's much more of that on the street than on the track.

jolly

Thanks.

silverTRD

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IMO 12/12 is not to stiff but like i said IMO. its for the right person of course. you said canyon driving, auto xing, and track days, nothing about daily driving. sounds like 12/12 is right up your alley, of course you need tires to support those spring rates(more grip!). but you also need better tires to experience a dramatic difference on any set of coilovers you decide. i personally am waiting on the tein monoflex's.

rynberg

Running 12/12 spring rates on the street is INSANE. Period. WAY too much oversteer. If you ran a huge front bar and staggered tires, you may get back to neutral....of course you'll have less grip than if you just went with proper spring rates. And your ride quality will be terrible as well.

silverTRD

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i agree that 12/12 on the street is a horible idea, no question.

the whole point of coilovers is their adjustability and how they are able to be tuned to YOUR specific driving needs. granted 12/12 is not for everybody but it all depends on how much time you want spend on setting up your suspension. if you dont want to take any time to adjust it then you would just be better off with the flex's or something similar. at any rate it is not as black and white as most people make it out to be. you have to remember that this is a forum board and 99% of posts on here are all opinions. your best bet would be to set up some meetings with people that actually have coilovers and see what it is exactly that YOU like ad to hell with everyone else.

but you have to wonder, why is it that a majority of quality coilovers for the fd have higher than whats considered "normal" spring rates...

rynberg

I certainly DO wonder that very thing! Although I think our definition of "quality" coilovers may be different.

As an experiment, I am currently running Zeal Function B6s with the "track" spring rates of 11/10. Too much oversteer, even with the 95 smaller rear bar and a staggered setup. The ride is actually very tolerable on the street, as Zeal actually knows how to valve their dampers.

GoRacer

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Sorry, haven't tried them yet (car is still in shop). I had JIC SF1's previously with 10/8's and it was a little stiff. Thos should have been 8/6 because you loose shock travel when lowered. I beleive mine are 10/10 and only Rotary Extreme sold them with 10/8's. I got mine direct and they wouldn't swap the springs for me but I did get them wholesale.
I think 12/12's would be insane on the streets in the USA. It will feel like this -->

silverTRD

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i had JIC FLT-A2's on a 99 impreza with a 10/8 ratio. it was a bone jarring ride. i hated it. even on the track it didnt seem to provide the performance trade off at all. switched to a set of tein flex's and all was good, and it was even better at the track.

Zeal does make awesome coilovers but i tend to shy away from them with their horribly bad wrap on customer service, are they able to rebuild the coilovers in the states now?

and that comment that that rynberg said tells a lot..."as Zeal actually knows how to valve their dampers."

when i am at this stage in my car and order the coilovers im going to order them with custom valving and spring rates. i am not going to do this myself however, i need to have a serious brainstorm with my suspension tech and all will be great!

GoRacer

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OK, I drove 600 miles with them yesterday. I have no idea what setting they are on but I loved the ride. Handling was amazing and never bottomed out and the car is slammed. 24.5" from floor to fender well (If I remember him correctly). There was no noise, no problems on pot holes, bumps, dips, etc. I love them and the spring rates are not too harsh. Buddy's kick *** over JIC like this

turbogarrett

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I have been running the buddy club d1 since april. Very tolerable on the street, the ride quality is actually better than the rsr/koni setup I used last year. This is my first coilover setup so I can't really say if it's better than brand x , but they seem to be a good bang for the buck.

Akina303

megan racing all the way man. those little springs are craaaaaazy good. and sooooooo easy to put in. thats always a plus

blacksi

How's the ride though?

DriftDreamzSS

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You would be suprised in the ride quality of the higher spring rate setups these days. All the companies seem to have made vast improvments in their damper valving even in the low end models over the last few years. Have you considered the stance coilovers, they are supposed to feel awesome and have stateside support for easy rebuilds. I think a huge factor in streetability is the valving. Just take a ride in any car on silk roads, they have comparable spring rates but ride smooth as buttah!