Mr rx-7 tt

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Looking for the best "streetable" coilover set up for mostly street use and some track use.

GoodfellaFD3S

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I absolutely love my Tanabe Sustec Pro S/S setup. I have the first set ever sent into the U.S., it was a 'test fit' set that I had installed by Ari over at www.RX7.com. It's proved extremely durable, with over 50k miles of street as well as road race and drag race without one problem. I'm pretty sure Gotham sells them.

Asleep

Chris,
Don't do a Truechoice setup unless I talk to you about it first. They have upgraded since I put mine on but there are some things that you need to remind them of to save some time and frustration. It's nice having shocks that can be rebuilt, but whenTF would someone wear out a set of shocks unless they drive it at 9/10ths all the time?

Kyle and a couple others here have the Tien and the ride is as stable as mine up to about 7/10ths.

Rich's setup seems to be a nice setup too. I'd like to feel it.

Tony

snub disphenoid

I'll let you know how my Tein Flex coilovers feel after I install them and get my car corner weighted.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Maybe we can work something out Tony. I may need some tuning at some point in the next couple of months, and ohio isnt that far from nj. Of course, I don't think you want to feel the Tanabes that badly, lol.

Mr rx-7 tt

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Thanks for the head ups on the set ups.

Nice to hear from you Tony.

Mr rx-7 tt

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How about Tein? JIC?

Mahjik

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For mostly street use, the Tein SS would do:

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/teinss.htm

Ground Control plus some decent shocks will also work.

namasan

I have the Tein Flex w/ edfc on my FD and am very happy w/ street (even in dc) and track performance (vir). If you are in N.Va, you are more than welcome to take a ride.....once it comes down off the jackstands :p

There's a new monotube version of the tein flex. Not sure if it's been released in the states yet.

Mr rx-7 tt

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I live down south of you in the Tidewater area unfortunatly, but I appreciate the offer !

Mr rx-7 tt

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They look good but they are cheaper in cost...?

Mahjik

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Yes, the shocks are not as "robust" as the Flex shocks (or other shocks), but will you really use those? Unless you are going to build a straight track car, I doubt you would notice the difference. I also know some hardcore track guys that have used the Tein Basics in tracking events (about 10-15 events per year) without issues. Those are slightly cheaper than the Tein SS.

Don't get caught up in the pricing unless you are building a NASA Time Trial or a Solo competition car. An adjustable shock with a coilover sleeve gives most drivers more than they can deal with...

Asleep

Ha! I am here for you...let me know when.

Mr rx-7 tt

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I am still looking for some feedback on JIC's ????

silverTRD

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i'll never buy JIC's again. i had them on an impreza and the valving was horible. the spring rates were decent at best and this was the flt-a2's specifically for the car of course. just to show you how bad they were(stiff), i noticed a rattle up front so i pull off the tire to check it out and the coilover falls out! the shock body was snapped in half! can you believe it? i called JIC and wanted to do absolutely nothing about. the warranty was up i understand but wow. anywho i switched to the Flex's in addition to corner waiting and balancing the car it handled great. a million times better on the street and noticably better on the track as well.

any question feel free to ask...

rynberg

The JICs are ****, Chris. Tein makes a good product and they are rebuildable in the US. The only other US service depts are Zeal and setups based on Konis.

I have never heard a single bad thing about the Tein Flex for your application. The spring rates are right and it has independent spring pre-loading.

I will say that Zeal makes some impressively built equipment, but at a high price.

snub disphenoid

I like the ride of my Tein Flex coilovers so far, they're really not too harsh. I can't comment too much on the handling because I haven't got them corner-weighted, I have M+S tires (M+S stands for Monumentally+Shitty) at the moment, and my front swaybar brackets are very broken (along with the RB swaybar mount support!). Overall the car feels much better already, though.

rynberg

No offense, but what's the point of buying coilovers when you are running Camry tires and have broken suspension parts?

zonblitz

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I had read some pretty positive things about the JIC FLT-A2's before this thread.

What is so bad about them? I heard the ride was nice as well as performance.

I ask this because I bought some yesterday off the forums. My current package is Tokico Illuminas with Eibach Springs. While the Tokico/Eibach combo is better than my previous setup (KYB Struts with R1 Springs) It sits a tad to low in the front and rubs slightly under hard cornering or high speed dips on the Intersatate. It also sits a tad high in the back. As far as the rubbing goes, I am at a loss as my wheels were bought from Rishie at Auto RnD and are 18x8.5 +48ET with Toyo Proxes T1R's 245/35/18's.

Not trying to hijack just want some more feedback on the JIC if available.

Thanks

ddkkww888

My street setup (I'm a Newbie):

Suspension & Exhaust:
ADR Kasai wheels, front 18x8; rear 18x9 w/Hub Centric Rings
Toyo T1’Proxes tires
TEIN Type FLEX Damper Coilover (2/2005)
HKS Super draeger cat-back exhaust with Bonez hi-flo
Catalytic converter.
Front Sway bar end links (7/2006)
Front & Rear Racing Beat Sway Bar (7/2006)
with special white bracket (7/2006)
18 piece Delrin Blushing (front, rear & diff.) (7/2006)
6 Pillow blushing for the rear (7/2006)

R1 Front tower strut brace (9/2005)
Gotham Racing Urethane Motor Mounts (7/2006)
Engine Damper (7/2006)

4 Wheel Alignment & Speed Balance all tires (7/2006)

It ROCKs ...LOL

ptrhahn

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Hey, I'd love to talk to you about truechoice setups. I've been poking around for a setup that is "better" than my standard Koni/GC deal.

AD'd might be nice since I already have half of the infrastructure (springs, hats, etc) but I don't feel like rebuilding the every year because of street use

Tien Flex might be a nice street/track option, but they seem more heavily weighted to "street".

Then there's just getting the Koni's I have rebuilt/valved and made double-adjustable. If I could get a setting that isn't an *worse" on the street than it currently is, but also has settings that kick more *** on the track than they currently do, that would be excellent.

rynberg

Where? There's been significant bad press about them for at least 2-3 years now. They have terrible reliability. They lie to customers. Their valving is TERRIBLE -- some owners have gotten independent shock dynos of their dampers, it was a joke. They have bad customer service. All in all, not good.

The only bad thing about Teins I've seen were the original HA dampers not being weather-resistant enough and the adjustment collars locking in place. I've never seen significant bad press about Zeal, Tein, or obviously, Koni-based setups.

Black91n/a

I've heard both bad and good about the JIC's.

In the Miata and world they're quite highly regarded, but they haven't been around there for that long, so the durability and customer service issues are yet to show themselves. The general consensus is that the valving is quite good for that application at least. There's also not a lot of choice for coilovers for them, and there's really not much experiance (on the message boards anyway) with anything but Tein and JIC.

I recently spoke to an RX-8 owner from BC who had FLT-A2's and he seemed to like them. He'd had one spring a leak, so he called them up and they had him ship both of the shocks from that end of the car to them and had them rebuilt and back to him in about a week and a half (IIRC), and that's including crossing the border twice. He said that they replaced the pistons with Zeal units, and he was planning on sending the other two back to have that done too. I have no idea if that is true or not about the pistons, but he got excellent service from them. The units were rebuilt free of charge despite being out of warranty.

But there's been lots of RX-7 owners who've been screwed by them, with dampers blowing out within months of purchase, and getting no response from JIC, then having to wait months to get their dampers back to them.

There's some Miata guys with more than 30 thousand miles on Flex's and they are still good, the damping's probably a little less than before, but they still work fine.

snub disphenoid

Are we all supposed to buy all of the parts at one time so we take care of EVERYTHING we want all at once? I didn't even notice the passenger side front swaybar mount was broken UNTIL I installed the coilovers anyways.

And to directly answer your question, the point of installing the adjustable ride-height, shortened-travel, significantly stiffer coilover suspension before fixing other things (that I didn't even know about at the time) was to stop my wheels/tires from pulling the living **** out of my front fenders and also from rubbing on the inner fender lining. But I suppose I should have held off on upgrading my suspension until I had enough money to buy a new set of wheels with perfect offsets, a brand new set of tires, new bushings, pillowballs, new trailing arms, toe links, and after I replaced every other suspension part for good measure, right?

And although Toyo Proxes FZ4's aren't the tires I would LIKE to have on right now, they aren't "Camry tires" as you said. And there's no sense of getting a set of summer tires with fall and winter around the bend. Sorry for making you upset that someone else's car (which isn't yours) is "wasting" the life of an aftermarket part. I'll be sure to replace every single replaceable part on my car so that the car you don't own is in perfect shape, perhaps then you'll be able to sleep at night.

rynberg

Jesus Christ, where are you guys coming from? Are you related to Gainer? Get the chip off your shoulder.

You posted you were running all-season tires...hence the "camry tires" comment. There is no reason to run all-season tires. I have daily driven 4 "winters" here in Cali on Dunlop SP8000s and Toyo T1-S. No problems in the rain. I wager they handle better in the wet than almost any all-season tire.

I'm just really curious how you could read so much vitriol from my simple little statement, that started out with "No offense, but". Jesus. Hell, I just discovered last week that I managed to bend my driver's side sway bar mount. You can yell at me for that if it would make you feel better.