autopaul

hey thanks thats awsome,, are they pretty stiff or what? how does he drive the car?

can anyone tell me how long coilovers generally last,,, (on the street.) i plan on driving it as nice as i can in the city,, but letting loose occasionally on the track,,

whats the longest that someones had d2s pr megans or ksports on thier car for race or street. ?


thanks

Paul

Catharsis

man get KTS they are proven and i know the dampning is awsome. plus they cost the same as somehting that is a complete gamble and has a history of being crap for other cars.

JHew84

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every car i've owned and researched suspensions for hasn't had a problem with k-sports, only real issue was the whole shipping fiasco when nobody could get their hands on them, everyone i've talked to who owns them says its a great suspension for the money, and i certainly haven't heard anything about them blowing out after 6 months... not discounting your situation, just tossing in my experiences, which FYI for the thread starter doesnt include FC's...

Pat McGroin

Well before my brother had a bad vibration in his 240 when taking turns hard, after he changed to the coilovers the vibration was gone.

Overall, you feel the car is tight, a little more bouncy but that's obvious when going from 16 year old suspension to a newer and firmer suspension. Definitely stiff enough to let you take some spirited turns and definitely bareable for daily driving.

There's a couple of spots in my city that we use for a little quick run and the 240 was really nice, even on some crappy 195 tires on the stock 15 inch rims.

By the way he got 8k fronts and 6k rear springrates. The megans also have a 1 year warranty.

The 240sx guys love their D2/Megan suspension I believe they're still on backorder.

Catharsis

most 240 guys are ricers, sorry its true. it s now the totrendysx, the guys who race thier 240sx, seriously race them or drift wont use that crap. Honestly if you can get the D2 for around $500-$600 good deal other than that they go to hell to fast to be worth it.

i guess if you dont really care and think that low and stiff is what makes a car cool go for it. but if you want something that will last and actually make your car do much better spend the extra money.

twilight slide

i have the KTS on my fc. . . they're within you're price range (i paid 1157 shipped from SPLparts). sucks cause they're a month long wait (special order). they do come with adjustable camber plates for the front BTW.

Pat McGroin

D2 and Megan have their own drift/track cars. Do you have experience with Megan or D2 coilovers????? I am not saying they're the best but do no trash a product you have no experience with or claim another set of suspension is awesome based on your Butt Dyno and no shock dyno comparisons.

This is a reason why I went with Koni Yellows, there's a few shock dynos on Honda-tech where they go against Tein, JIC and other JDM brands and outperform them.

And because your friend swears on silkroad coilovers doesn;t make them awesome either, please show me some shock dynos and not hearsay. Best part about silkroads, this I love, is that if you blow them there isn't any revalving done in the US, so thats right you pay the shipping to Japan, the revalving work, and wait easily a month to get them back if that.

I have also ridden in a silkroad equipped 240sx, nothing special and it cost my friend 1300. So far no has had any problems with D2/Megan coilovers(the actual product), or at least I haven't heard of any.

Do not call me a megan or D2 nuthugger, I am runing Koni Yellows/GC setup on my FC, and I would recommend the same for anyone else, I would look at those as well since the setup is in your price range, but involves some labor to install them, unlike coilovers which are a pretty straight forward install.

Catharsis

i would also rather have the GC and Koni yellos to the megan/D2.

Before megan had thier own drift car they sponsored Matt "back' Vass with a free set, that he then took off and returned to them to get something better. Megan does make quality products for the most part i have personally used thier stuff and will again, however i will not use thier coilovers.

Again I have tons of experince with D2 and a bit with megan, the megan wee obcenly bounce for the spring rates, even on soft and my view on D2 has been expressed over and over. The two cars i have delth with D2s on were two of the very first to get D2s and some of the first to be replaced, repeatedly. I wont talk trash about a coilover i dont know.

As for my buddy, I am sure he would know nothing about coilovers, His name is Wes Harris.

Why are you defending Mega/D2 so strong? There are better options for the same money. GC/koni, KTS, Silk Road, Tein Super Drifts, Tein Flex. These are all in the same price range and are all better options. (yes i have plenty of time with each of them)

autopaul

so have we even decided yet wether or not d2 is the same thing as k-sport,, can we get clarification or is it all rumors... was your friends experience with the coilovers d2 or k sport? when they had to be replaced Catharsis?

i also wouldnt say that konis/gc combo is really in your price range if you needed camber plates (for those lowering thier car more than a coulpe inches...

can someone pleas quote me realistic prices on kts, silkroad. tien, ortien flex? in your hounest opinion would the difference i would have to pay over the k-sports be worth it for the better product?

keep in mind my price for k-sports is about 1000$$ canadian...and i wont have to pay shipping which is a huge plus... the thing is most of you are to be talking american funds, and lets say i could get kts for example for 1300 american then have to pay shipping on top of that,, its not worth it.... that will end up costing me almost double with taxes in etc.. catch my drift,,,

thanks agian guys,,, i hope this can be more of a refernce for people deciding on suspension rather than a fight about whether ebay stuff is **** or not,,, lets look at the facts and not just throw in a random comment that a product sucks if you have no evidence to prove it...

yes we know that not many if any race teams use k-sports,, but does that really disqualify them for being a cheaper alternative to full on race coilovers? same thing for other brands like d2..

thanks

Paul

FC3S.USD

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KTS and D2 are not the same.

There bodies might look similar ( only so many ways of making a coilover ) . But the shocks are different. ( KTS is made in japan ) while D2 I believe taiwan or korea.

( no experience with D2 personally but with KTS and they are awesome for the price )

Pat McGroin

Not defending them, but like I said I am running Koni Yellows on Ground Controls, either way we're straying from the poster's topic.

If you're seriously competing I would look into Ohlins, Penske, DMS racing suspensions..big league stuff. If you just want some nice coilovers for the buck that will be good for occassional race than get the K-sports.

The lifetime warranties on the Konis and GC's help.

For the poster or anyone contemplating their suspension, here's a helpful link.

http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html#04

Catharsis

d2=ksport

my friends had D2.

Talk to Morden Speed Labs, specificly Edgar. KTS cost about 1k USD
https://www.rx7club.com/members/edgar-msl-78798/

There is a reason that you will not see any competing teams with this coilovers, there are better options for very little more. Honestly if your looking to be cheap go with whatevr you can get for the least amount of money, have fun with that though. If you want osmething decent please spend an extra $100 or $200 and get a better product, you will be more pleased later on.

and for the price listed on the K-sport website for the FC $1300 USD you can get the KTS and save around $300 big ones, or get a far better buddy club, tein, silkroad product.

autopaul

thanks Catharsis,, anyone know what shipping and change to can funds,, would cost? still yet to hear from anyone at all running k sports on an fc but i guess thats proof? corrrect me if im wrong for that price if they were any good there would be loads of people on here saying they are the pimp ****,,

dampening wasnt even an issue for me because i know it would be overdampening for my car (being somewhere just over 2000lbs) all i really wanted to hear about is people saying theyve had troubles with blowouts,,, if this wasnt an issue i would be all over this so i could lower my car and have a stiff ride untill i could afford something with custom spring and dampening rates.. (wayyy later)

thanks

Paul

Catharsis

if the Ksport are over damped for all cars, of normal weight they they will be mega over damped, just get it over with and call buddy club.

I am drunk so this is to the point

2MCHPWR

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catharsis, you rule!
how does this combo from true choice (koni distributor and rebuilder) compare to the koni/ground control mentioned earlier? posting from an email i got from them. its in the price range of what the poster is looking to spend:

Phantomhp

There is nothing wrong with the ksports...they are just newer to the market so their name hasn't got around nor has all car types tried out their product. They are not exactly like D2's as KSport has more options and types of coilovers to offer over D2.

KSports are rebuildable and can be bought with different spring rates as well. Adjustments included, dapening, height and many apps have a lower adjustment mounting point for camber adjustment.

So far there hasn't been an unhappy customer with their set and we have been very pleased with the ones we use as well.

I have sold a countless number of ksports to neons owners, nissan owners, toyota etc.... and many for drift applications.

We run them on our 00 Civic Si and will be adding them onto our 87 TII here soon as well.

Mike

Catharsis

Propaganda at its best.

Ksport=D2 when my friends ordered thier d2/ksport they had the option of ksport orange or D2 purple...

and if you sell to people who dont know any better of course they will be happy. its like people who buy computers from walmart
Again i have spent countless half hours changing coilovers on cars, and most of them have been because of shitty quality on D2/Ksport

just dont do it

what someof you dont seem to get is that many of the people here sling parts and are looking to make a quick buck off you by selling you the Kspor or D2.

I am currently working with a smaller suspention company to get thier products to the US, but you dont see me slinging them right now, for the sole fact that thier dampning isnt up to par at the moment. However the second it is i will recomend the hell out of them and make sure i have the shock dynos to back it up. Honestly i dont want to work with anyone that make a sub part product because it reflects poorly on me. There are obviously a few of you who feel the same way, and you i salute.

Phantomhp

I was just giving my opinion on them was all. I am not trying to "sling" any parts as I am not a sponsor but I can always give my input.

I deal straight through ksport and I am unsure where you friend bought his kit from but there is no option for ksport orange or D2 purple. If that option was there at one point it is no longer there and hasn't been there for awhile.

Again, just my input on them as I sell tein's, jics and hks plus more. There have been no problems yet with a single kit sold so as far as our records go they seem to be a good kit.

Mike

autopaul

thanks Phantomhp

autopaul

i think i may just take my chaces on the k sports,
i know ive been advised not to, but im confident that with a lighter wieght car and possibly softer springs that i wouldnt have problems with them 'blowing out"

plus theres so much confusion/war about what coilovers are good. and what ones are ebay crap.. i just dont know what to think anymore... plus absolutely nobody who has k sports installed on an fc has even commented about the performance or lack there of. so it looks like i may be a guinny pig afterall..

thanks for the warning anyways guys,, i will keep you all updated as far as performance and reliability goes, if, when i get these coilovers..

Paul

SwiftTone

I was thinking of getting the k-sport/D2s also. Where are you getting them from and what is the price?

Let me know how they are, mmmkayy? Thanks!!

autopaul

a friend said he could get them for me from distributor here in bc, he said probably around 1grand canadian,, then maybe taxes,, im not posetive..

SwiftTone

My parents live in BC, is there a possibility that you could hook me up?

Phantomhp

You can drop me a pm as well if needed. I will be glad to answer any questions needed as I am a large distributor of their products. I have been discussing having a group buy on these coilovers for the members of rx7club.com.

They have their regular KSport Kontrol Coilovers and then they have their new GT Pro setups as well.

Mike

the_saint

FWIW I picked up a set of k-sports for my 2003 Sentra Spec V for under $700 USD shipped (group buy). They seem to be arond $750-800 shipped normally.

Seem like a good deal for the $$$, and then some.