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Old 05-15-02, 12:52 AM
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Coilovers: TEINs, JIC, or other

I was first looking at Koni yellow shocks with Ground Control or M2 coilovers but now I am seeing a lot of good reviews with Tein. How much different are the Tein HA's from the RA's? I also heard JICs are high quality but more on the expensive side. If you had about $1,500 what would be your guys vote?

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There are so many coiloverkits under $1500.

For Example

As for Tein, HR US$800
HA US$950
HKS Hyper Max US$950
Hyper Max 2 US$1150
Cusco Comp01 US$900
Comp02 US$1100

The price does not include tax and shipping.
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suspension is one thing thats worth the money.
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Ordered the HA's and they should be in, in a couple of days!!! I believe i asked your same question a week ago, so just a reminder to search. But the difference is that the RA's are not adjustable but the HA's are.
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what is a good vendor for tein HAs?
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Originally posted by Street King
Ordered the HA's and they should be in, in a couple of days!!! I believe i asked your same question a week ago, so just a reminder to search. But the difference is that the RA's are not adjustable but the HA's are.
Yeah I read that post. But from the Pic's on the www.rx7store.net It seemed to me like the NA's were not adjustable. The RA's are the more expensive model.

Almost forgot to add... I would like to hear how you like the HA's when you get them on.

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The HR's are non-adjustable. The RA's are more race-oriented aren't they? If money is no object, I'd get a set of double adjustable Aragostas from say Knight Sports or one of the other Japanese vendors. They're getting, consistently, the best reviews by magazines and by Japanese RX7 enthusiasts. I know that the single adjustables were about 288,000 Yen from Knight Sports. The company apparently was started by a bunch of ex-Ohlins engineers. REALLY good stuff.

With that said, I have the HA's which are very nice for the money. JIC's, the adjustable ones, are a bit better still. Apexi has a new unit out as well with remote resovoirs. Don't know anything about those units though.
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Yeah I think I got mixed up but the HA's are adjustable though I know that for sure. Ill post a review off the HA's when I put them on. Also 2 friends of mine both with turbo II's have tein products. They love them and I know i will too.
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If you get the Tein HA's spring for the pillowmounts as well.

I've got the HA'sw/pillowmounts and love them.

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aragostas

Does anyone know where one can pick up a set of Aragosta double's with remotes from Biot in JP?
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if i had to redo my suspension i would choose MazdaSpeed... they have a sweet coilover setup ride adjustible and everything for i believe 1500...

http://www.corksport.com/rx7/2rxindex.html

try there
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Why Aragosta?
It is very expensive in Japan.
Dream works which is very famous race car constructor,
uses Aragosta for race car(FD).
But he modifies stock settings.
If you buy them, you cannot get so much advantages I think.
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Why not try ohlins coilover setup, a friend has it and reckons it is the best stuff he has had on his FD.

Unsure of cost in states though????
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Originally posted by inukai
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Why Aragosta?
It is very expensive in Japan.
Dream works which is very famous race car constructor,
uses Aragosta for race car(FD).
But he modifies stock settings.
If you buy them, you cannot get so much advantages I think.
Well, I would get Ohlins in the states, except you cant get those in the states either. And yes, Aragosta is very expensive, but its around the same price range as Penske D/As, JRZ D/As, or Ohlins D/As.

They offer just as much adjustability, and they have a allenhead locknut securing mechanism for the threaded coilover height adjustment rather than two opposite facing friction based rings. Easier to maintain, less PITA to adjust.
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Hmmm, how much does that group you mentioned cost (on average?)
Because the JIC Magics are kind of expensive too ($1700 or so)
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I have heard alot of good things about the Tanabe Sustec Pro's so I decided to order some. They won't be on for atleast another week but I'll get back to you.

Mazdaspeeds supposedly never get stiff enough, don't adjust well.
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Originally posted by Node
Hmmm, how much does that group you mentioned cost (on average?)
Because the JIC Magics are kind of expensive too ($1700 or so)

around 800/corner..

upwards of 3-4k per set without tops

I know the Ohlins (when I priced them) were 4150
and the Penske's were 850/corner + 150/top
JRZ i dont know and the aragosta's i've seen were around 3400 USD converted from JPY last I checked.
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Originally posted by inukai
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Why Aragosta?
It is very expensive in Japan.
Dream works which is very famous race car constructor,
uses Aragosta for race car(FD).
But he modifies stock settings.
If you buy them, you cannot get so much advantages I think.
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Originally posted by WorkS2R



around 800/corner..

upwards of 3-4k per set without tops

I know the Ohlins (when I priced them) were 4150
and the Penske's were 850/corner + 150/top
JRZ i dont know and the aragosta's i've seen were around 3400 USD converted from JPY last I checked.
WOW who quoted you? expensive. Ohlins are only about $2000 without shipping, depending on what kind you want, but thats for fully adjustable street/curcuit suspension. Same with aragosta, where are you guys getting your prices?

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Originally posted by GsrSol
I have heard alot of good things about the Tanabe Sustec Pro's so I decided to order some. They won't be on for atleast another week but I'll get back to you.

Mazdaspeeds supposedly never get stiff enough, don't adjust well.
Mazdaspeed is kinda like HKS suspension, except for the one they just came out with, even if you tighten it up all the way, the suspension tends to give you a boucing effect.. Not like these other companies, were they give you a ruff jolting ride. BUT if you use mazdaspeed and HKS, its tuff to race in for corners and even street on corners if you have the **** all the way tighten..
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Originally posted by canman6969


WOW who quoted you? expensive. Ohlins are only about $2000 shipped, depending on what kind you want, but thats for fully adjustable street/curcuit suspension. Same with aragosta, where are you guys getting your prices?
well, seeing that my spoken japanese basically sucks, I go by what I read is the sale price, when I get a response via fax or otherwise, and Ohlins SPL w/Remotes were 354000 and thats not 2000 USD.

and the Aragosta's were 375900 and that is also not in the 2000 USD range.
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If i had to do it all over again, I would consider the Penske Triple Adjustables. Their remote reservoir is attached to the damper (a-la Aragosta). My Penske D/A are awesome but locating the remote reservoir's a PITA.

FWIW, I got quoted USD$2400 per corner (w/o springs) for Ohlins TS44 (4-ways). Prolly the best one can get but $10K for dampers seems a bit much.
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Originally posted by HedgeHog
If i had to do it all over again, I would consider the Penske Triple Adjustables. Their remote reservoir is attached to the damper (a-la Aragosta). My Penske D/A are awesome but locating the remote reservoir's a PITA.

FWIW, I got quoted USD$2400 per corner (w/o springs) for Ohlins TS44 (4-ways). Prolly the best one can get but $10K for dampers seems a bit much.
Hey Hedge!

I knew you would chime in sooner or later.

Yeah, you would go with the T/A's huh? I was thinking about that, but.. arent they like 1200/corner or somethin?
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Haha...i couldnt hold back.

T/A's are $1250 per corner...starting. I think the attached reservoir will be closer to $1500 per. But given the results I got (made the pretty decent and ubiquitous Koni/Eibach/Ground Control setup feel like crap), I think they are worth every penny (if you do more than drive on the street, that is).
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ouch!
1500$ per corner..

i guess ill be picking up those D/A's and find a place to mount them as you have.

Worth every penny, though, huh? I've driven in a Ohlins SPL setup and also the Blitz Sachs setup.

Definately makes a difference, even on mine.

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