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Old 04-19-06, 02:03 AM
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What's a good set of coilover? Any recommendation would be appreciated. Car is for Street use, prefer good brands price is not a matter. Let me know thanks.

Would prefer a set that will work with EDFC too. Thanks again.
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Tein flex will work with edfc. Apex exv is a a street c/o with good adjustability at a cheaper price than the teins. Silk road rm A8's are on the softer side and should be good for street.
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EDFC is a Tein product name, so you're limiting yourself to one coilover manufacterer. There are a couple others that use an EDFC type device. Are you set on using Tein because you already have an EDFC or something? Or do you just not want to have to get out to adjust the dampers? From what I've read most people only change damper settings when they get to the track or to an autocross, and then it's not a huge deal to get out and adjust them. There's a little bit of fiddling at first, but after you identify the best settings for street, track, and autocross you'll stick to them and not fiddle with them any more, so then the EDFC is just sitting there doing nothing 99.9% of the time. AFAIK the extra damper settings are just half settings, the EDFC won't make the dampers able to go any higher or lower in their adjustment range, it just gives more choices in between.
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
EDFC is a Tein product name, so you're limiting yourself to one coilover manufacterer. There are a couple others that use an EDFC type device. Are you set on using Tein because you already have an EDFC or something? Or do you just not want to have to get out to adjust the dampers? From what I've read most people only change damper settings when they get to the track or to an autocross, and then it's not a huge deal to get out and adjust them. There's a little bit of fiddling at first, but after you identify the best settings for street, track, and autocross you'll stick to them and not fiddle with them any more, so then the EDFC is just sitting there doing nothing 99.9% of the time. AFAIK the extra damper settings are just half settings, the EDFC won't make the dampers able to go any higher or lower in their adjustment range, it just gives more choices in between.
well i would like to have the EDFC function so i dont have to bother to go in and change all that, but of course, I am not limited. But from what you've said, that gave me a second thought. And I have thought the the TEIN FLEX and the TEIN SS, flex is good, but I dont really need something that good unless I am doing some good racing with em, so i rather save a few hundred if I can. Second, my car is kitted with the GT-C, and I would not like to have rubber rubbing on my fender with 18" as possible. Any good recommendations? I've heard alot of good things about Teins, but I am not limited to only that brand, so please let me know your advices and they will be gladly appreciated. thanks
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http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html#04

Another coilover set you could look at are the Koni Yellows with ground controls, and they'll be about 400 dollars cheaper than the teins. I have heard good things about KTS, Zeals, Buddy Clubs. etc..

But bang for the buck Koni Yellows/GC combo.

Also do you plan on corner weighing the car? If not, then it kinda defeats the purpose for buying coilovers.
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Yep, and some autocrossing and so forth.

Originally Posted by Pat McGroin
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html#04

Another coilover set you could look at are the Koni Yellows with ground controls, and they'll be about 400 dollars cheaper than the teins. I have heard good things about KTS, Zeals, Buddy Clubs. etc..

But bang for the buck Koni Yellows/GC combo.

Also do you plan on corner weighing the car? If not, then it kinda defeats the purpose for buying coilovers.
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Silk Road, Cusco or Kei Office in my opinion are superiors.
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Originally Posted by eatmyclutch
Silk Road, Cusco or Kei Office in my opinion are superiors.

Another thing you might want to keep in mind is serviceability in the US. I haven't heard of Silk Roads having a location in the US, and the Kei Office I have heard the facilities in Japan are closed, but not permanently.
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What's supposedly better about any of the listed kits over a ground control kit? I've had ground control with GAB super R's for a long time and I was pretty happy with them, at least I used to be I might be looking for a bunch of suspension parts for a 2nd FD soon and I haven't stayed in the loop on these.

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Originally Posted by blackb15
Never heard of it. Think I'd rather stick with something I know. I'm more interested in if the common wisdom has changed over the past 6 years.
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For having electronic damping adjustment you hvae these options:

Tein Flex w/ EDFC

Tanabe Sustec 7 w/ TEAS

Cusco Zero-2E, with their controller.

I think those are your reputable options.
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Hmmm, I do have the mazda stock electronic damping adjustment.

I don't know if I can install any of those, ideas?

I was thinking to buy Amemiya's Suspension...
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Making this "EDFC" shouldn't be that hard if you're into electronics. Get an actuator, with specific number of positions and just build it.

You will not be able to retrofit the FC one to these as that is only two way adjustable.

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Originally Posted by Kevin T. Wyum
Never heard of it. Think I'd rather stick with something I know. I'm more interested in if the common wisdom has changed over the past 6 years.
From what I gather,most of the nowadays coilovers come with a preload as well as height adjustment.With groundcontols or sleaves ,lowering beyond a point results in a loss of shock travel resulting in a risk of bottoming out the shock(likely blowing it).Lowering the sleaves also adds spring slop which makes for noise on bumps unless you add tender springs. Effects Probably varies from car type also.That's my take on them at least.
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Originally Posted by The Griffin
From what I gather,most of the nowadays coilovers come with a preload as well as height adjustment.With groundcontols or sleaves ,lowering beyond a point results in a loss of shock travel resulting in a risk of bottoming out the shock(likely blowing it).Lowering the sleaves also adds spring slop which makes for noise on bumps unless you add tender springs. Effects Probably varies from car type also.That's my take on them at least.
I have to tell you I've owned a ground control setup without helper springs for quite awhile and never had noise on bumps outside of cracking bones with 600/500 springs. I'm also guessing, assuming reasonable diameter tires, that you'll be hitting the fender liners long before damaging a shock from bottoming out. Where did you hear that, maybe it became a problem later on for them?

I don't think I'm interested in a remote adjustable setup.

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