Body roll - I thougt FDs were stiff ?
10-09-03, 01:03 AM
#28
Rotary Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 1,252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
1993 RX-7 base
suspension:
JIC FLTA2 coilover
Stock front and rear swaybar
mazdatrix swaybar end links
widefoot swaybar mounts with energy suspension bushings for the front swaybar.
tires:
Kumho MX 225/50/16
engine:
K&N filter
downpipe
hf cat
ASP catback
simplified vacuum hoses(running seq still)
stock ECU
spun out
ugghh..don't slide
suspension:
JIC FLTA2 coilover
Stock front and rear swaybar
mazdatrix swaybar end links
widefoot swaybar mounts with energy suspension bushings for the front swaybar.
tires:
Kumho MX 225/50/16
engine:
K&N filter
downpipe
hf cat
ASP catback
simplified vacuum hoses(running seq still)
stock ECU
spun out
ugghh..don't slide
10-09-03, 09:32 AM
#29
Originally posted by DamonB
To me suspension seems to certainly be one of those things where the more you study it the more you realize you don't know.
To me suspension seems to certainly be one of those things where the more you study it the more you realize you don't know.
10-09-03, 01:01 PM
#30
EX Pres of DFW Drunks
as others have said... some roll is to be expected. As long as you're not rubing your front tires on the tops your inner fenders then you're not rolling more than others...
What you want is stick (of course, you're a bit wide of the line there in your 2nd picture..)
What you want is stick
(of course, you're a bit wide of the line there in your 2nd picture..)
10-09-03, 05:10 PM
#32
Rotary Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 1,252
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
really? hmmm....lets discuss driving position too. I have been having problem with this
I am 5'4" and my arms not longer than my legs. they are about the same.
I have mod my seat to the following:
1. Raise the front bolts about .5 inch and rear about .25 inch. So I can see better out the window.
2. If I adjust the seat front/back so my legs will reach the pedals properly, my head will be too close to the steering wheel, that is what I felt.
Shouldn't we form about 90 degree angle at elbow for correct driving position.
Would a different steering wheel solve my problem?
Reza
I am 5'4" and my arms not longer than my legs. they are about the same.
I have mod my seat to the following:
1. Raise the front bolts about .5 inch and rear about .25 inch. So I can see better out the window.
2. If I adjust the seat front/back so my legs will reach the pedals properly, my head will be too close to the steering wheel, that is what I felt.
Shouldn't we form about 90 degree angle at elbow for correct driving position.
Would a different steering wheel solve my problem?
Reza
Last edited by reza; 10-09-03 at 05:17 PM.
10-09-03, 08:13 PM
#34
Just Call Me Terminator!
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by DamonB
That's because you drive slow like my Granny.
That's because you drive slow like my Granny.
10-13-03, 10:57 PM
#39
Rotary Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Posts: 1,430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You people that have upgraded the factory sway bars, did you find a big noticible difference? Im thinking about upgrading mine but dont wont to unless its going to improve the feel and handling of the car. I have never been to the track before but planning too here in the future.
10-13-03, 11:38 PM
#40
Originally posted by Raziel
I like how you have a vett following you into that corner.
I like how you have a vett following you into that corner.
Right before the pass.
lol, that Vette. He was a nice guy but he was all over the track. I know he spun out at least 2 times that I saw. No telling what else he did that I didn't see.
10-14-03, 12:22 AM
#41
Lives on the Forum
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Lorenzo, California
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
8 Posts
Originally posted by 93redFD
You people that have upgraded the factory sway bars, did you find a big noticible difference? Im thinking about upgrading mine but dont wont to unless its going to improve the feel and handling of the car. I have never been to the track before but planning too here in the future.
You people that have upgraded the factory sway bars, did you find a big noticible difference? Im thinking about upgrading mine but dont wont to unless its going to improve the feel and handling of the car. I have never been to the track before but planning too here in the future.
10-14-03, 12:26 AM
#42
Lives on the Forum
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Lorenzo, California
Posts: 14,716
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
8 Posts
Originally posted by DamonB
First off, let's get some facts. Stock FD's do not have stiff springs....
First off, let's get some facts. Stock FD's do not have stiff springs....
10-14-03, 01:17 AM
#43
Originally posted by rynberg
For anyone that's curious, the stock Z06 suspension setup uses 525/714 springs with 30/23.5 mm anti-roll bars.....
For anyone that's curious, the stock Z06 suspension setup uses 525/714 springs with 30/23.5 mm anti-roll bars.....
-Max
10-14-03, 07:13 AM
#44
Lives on the Forum
Originally posted by 93redFD
You people that have upgraded the factory sway bars, did you find a big noticible difference?
You people that have upgraded the factory sway bars, did you find a big noticible difference?
10-14-03, 07:53 AM
#45
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
Originally posted by rynberg
Keep the car stock until you've been to the track or auto-xed at least a few times. You will be simply amazed at how well your car handles when you actually get it in a track situation...it's totally different than the street.
Keep the car stock until you've been to the track or auto-xed at least a few times. You will be simply amazed at how well your car handles when you actually get it in a track situation...it's totally different than the street.
10-14-03, 11:20 AM
#46
Full Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Royal Oak, Mi
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Body roll is not a bad thing, as long as the suspension geometry is able to accomodate it. Notice in the attached picture how perfectly verticle the outside tire is, despite the body roll. Static camber is around -1.8 degrees.
10-14-03, 11:37 AM
#48
Lives on the Forum
Originally posted by Alex
Body roll is not a bad thing, as long as the suspension geometry is able to accomodate it.
Body roll is not a bad thing, as long as the suspension geometry is able to accomodate it.
On one track I crested a hill at 90mph and had to make a left turn immediately after (no braking required). I was turning left as the car was still settling and basically bottomed the right rear with the combination of body roll and the rear end coming down. It's the only time I have been truly startled in the car and I puckered big time while trying to keep the car on course. It never got completely out of hand but I knew it was so close to leaving and the fence wasn't far off. I now know my butt can inhale approximately half the seat cushion
10-14-03, 03:55 PM
#49
Lives on the Forum
Originally posted by Alex
Notice in the attached picture how perfectly verticle the outside tire is, despite the body roll. Static camber is around -1.8 degrees.
Notice in the attached picture how perfectly verticle the outside tire is, despite the body roll. Static camber is around -1.8 degrees.