NoOne

I searched looking for a good track/street pad.

Here is my situation. I run stock rotors, stock brakes. I have an event coming up in 2 weeks where I'll be running pretty decent, hard braking from 135 to 60 on the straight and the rest of the track isn't much better on brakes.

I will be driving the car for only 2 more months at best, into early November and over the winter I plan to do rotors and other pads.

I need something that will last me through the event, will work on the street, and hopefully live long enough for me to pull them off and just swap them out for track days once I redo the rotors and all that over the winter.

Grattan is very hard on brakes and I only go 3 times per year, but now that the suspension is all sorted I'll probably do a few more Auto X and track days next year.

I'm willing to put up with dust for the time I'm driving it, and even moderate noise. I'll also be switching to Motul fluid.

I'm running a street tire, Yokohama A520's but with them out last time with new stock pads I never got into the ABS before they faded pretty hard.

Thanks

rynberg

I don't know how you didn't find anything searching....

Hawk HP+ sounds like what you are looking for to me. Relatively cheap, great cold friction, will fade on the track but not go away.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

You aren't going to find a pad to work on the track and street at the same time. If you do, you aren't going fast enough on the track.

You'll need lapping pads for the track and upgraded street pads for the street/AutoX. The reason you don't want lapping pads for AutoX is that by the time your run is ending, the pads will just be warming up.

You can get by with only using lapping pads on the front and upgraded street pads in the rears for track events. It only takes a few minutes to change out the fronts.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

BTW, I use the N-Tech Lapping Day Brake Pads for the Front on track days:

http://www.ntechengineering.com/inde...d=6&model_id=2

and the Bönez Stage 1 Pads all around for street (and they stay on the rear for track days):

http://rx7.com/store/rx7/fdbrakes.html

maxcooper

I suspect you'll fade the Hawk HP+ badly at Grattan. You are going to need real track pads. Maybe Hawk Blue, Hawk Black, Porterfield R4, EBC Red, etc. They might dust like mad, be impossible to clean if you leave the dust on your wheels, eat your rotors, etc. but they should still stop okay even when cold.

-Max

1st to 3rd

Probably why your search didn't come up with anything. Seriously, many have tired to find a street/track pad and all have failed. The stock brakes are simply too small to use anything but a true track pad, like what Max suggested.
I tired using a track pad in the front and street pad in the rear and was very disappointed in the results. Too much front brake bias on already overworked brakes. I settled on leaving Hawk blacks in the rear all the time and swapping from HP+ and blues in the front for street and track. This isn't the greatest solution either, but it's the best/easiest I've been able to come up with.

Cheers!

why not just swap pads on the track? it's easy...

http://www.wpfri.com/

the ontario Solo1 time trial guys and Solo2 autox regional guys swear by them.

NoOne

ok, if I go with a good track pad, how well will my rotors live?

I'm no pro driver, I'd be better if I had alot more confidence in the brakes, just as long as I can drive home on the stock rotors and they'll get me through till late October or the snow starts falling.

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

I drive to and from events with the N-Tech lapping pads installed on the front. Just doing that little bit of driving on them won't harm the rotors. It was the main reason I went with those over some of the other track pads. However, you have to be damn cautious as they won't warm up enough to stop well for your trips back and forth to the events. Give yourself plenty of room to stop.