mycarisolderthanme

I want 17" BBS style wheels. Pretty much a larger size of the stock vert wheels. I've found some for a decent price, but they weigh almost 30 lbs each. If I want this style, but still want lightweight, am I going to have to pay $500 a wheel from BBS or fikse or does someone have a backdoor for me?

Black91n/a

There are good options for reasonably priced wheels out there, but not too many in a BBS style. I've got some of the last generation Mustang GT (17x8, 5 spoke)wheels on my car, they're cheap, plentiful, strong, and not that heavy. They'll bolt right up. ASA AR1's are available in a 17x7 from tirerack for $279 each, and they're BBS style, but you can get 4 of the GT wheels for not much more than one of those will set you back. There's also the ASA EM9 in a 17x7 for $139, and they're 21lbs. This is all assuming a 5 lug setup though. In a 16x7 there's the S5 TII wheels, they're pretty light, but may be hard to find in good condition for a reasonable price.

1SWEET7

iTrader: (1)

What are you going to be doing that requires your car to weigh a certain amount. If nothing then don't worry about weight so much. A rule of thumb for drag racing is that 100lbs takes 1/10th of a second off of your time. So it is a negligible amount. Get the rims you want and see if you notice a weight difference.

SuperRotorMan

unless it is a significant amount of weight u will no notice the differance in preformance

snub disphenoid

Well if he's going from 14lb. wheels to 30lb. wheels, which is 16lbs. of unsprung weight at every corner, yes it will make a difference. And just in general, it's never a good idea to add 60+lbs. (who knows how much the tires would weigh) to a sports car.

Healing

http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/flik/

Eh, the Artic and Wasp look good for the price.

Black91n/a

Wheel weight is much, much more important than the weight of nearly any other component. That's because it's unsprung weight, meaning that when you go over a bump the spring and shock are having to try and control that weight, and the less weight there is there the better the control will be, and you'll get better grip and better ride comfort.

Also with wheels they're rotating weight, and adding larger wheels is like adding a heavier flywheel. It takes engine power to spin those wheels, so the more they weigh, the harder it is for the engine to spin them, maening you'll accelerate more slowly. It's actually slightly more complicated than that, as say a 20lb 15" wheel will be easier to spin than a 20lb 18" wheel, as the mass of the 18 is concentrated further outwards (look up moment of inertia and angular acceleration).

A 30lb wheel is VERY heavy and has no place on a sports car. Even if it was a 18x13 it should weigh less.

You should have a look at the miata forum at miata.net, they're super **** about wheel weights and consider anything more than about 15lbs to be heavy. For the FC I'd stay away from anything much over 20lbs. My wheels weigh 20lbs for a 17x8, which is on the heavy side, but the handling and ride is still fairly good on the stock suspension.

mycarisolderthanme

Thanks guys for explaining why I want a lightweight wheel.

Healing, the Wasp is exactly what I'm looking for, for a very reasonable price, at a nice weight. Problem is, don't TII's have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern? The black is the only finish that comes in that pattern, and I don't want black. =)

And black91n/a, im gonna head to those miata forums right now, but I suspect very few of them are running 17's..

dclin

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Enkei RPF1s - the best bang for the buck that I can find, if buying new. About 16lbs for 17x9 @ around $300/piece.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=rpf1

Hit up ARD T2 for a good deal over in his section: https://www.rx7club.com/a-138/

mycarisolderthanme

Thanks, but not the style I'm looking for.. decent deal though.

Black91n/a

http://www.edgeracing.com/wheel/112/

That's the only Wasp that'll fit, and you'll probably be limited to about a 215 in the front and you can't safely run more than a 225 on a 7" wide wheel. That's one reason I like the Mustang wheels, they're 17x8, meaning there's more tire width possible, and it's a 32mm offset, which is better for fitting large tires up front.

Turbo Mike

On my DSM but I'm sure they would look good on an FD they are Tenzo R Mean 6's

89t295k

5 lbs off each wheel n tire combo will yeald aprox 40lbs off each wheelx4 =160lbs/3000lbs=over 5% faster
or about 15.0 sec vs 14.25 sec!!!!

Big difference.
A stock worn tire weighs about 3-5 lbs less than a new one lol. And it is easy to save 3-5 lbs per wheel with like the rpf1's and a few others.

our wheels can be light as 25 lbs each or go to over 50 lbs with a s4 turbo wheel or "bling"
18+ inch cast wheel.
that's about an 800lbs difference.

Show n go don't always mix well.

The forged 17x8inch 17lb mustang gt wheels worked 4 me. Under $300 for the whole set too! I'd have loved to get volks at 12lbs each but, who has $2000 for wheels I can't hit a pothole with?

Black91n/a

The Mustang GT wheels are cast, and I've seen many conflicting reports on weights. Some say 17lbs, mine were around 20-21lbs, still not too bad for a wheel that large. They'll also be strong as hell, as they're meant for a much heavier, more powerful car, and being OE, they'll have been durability tested. This more than offsets the lack of forging as far as strength is concerned.

They're by far the best value in wide 17's for the FC that I've seen so far. You'll end up spending more on a set of FD wheels, even if you get them for free (cost of spacers and such).

ARD T2

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So couple questions,

1. What is your budget? I don't think that was actually disclosed. Give me a max budget with shipping let's say to your door.

2. Don't sacrifice running a FWD wheel on this car please. Pick function over form please.

I was going to suggest this wheel, but not sure if it's in your budget. The club price is not disclosed on the website:

http://www.autornd.com/catalog/produ...9f5cff292bd06f

We can do 17x8 and 9 on this wheel. Should weigh in at about 18ish lbs.

Rishie

moemoney

Hey man check these out if you're interested I can send you more pics I will sell the VERY cheap... No more room in storage.

http://probefaq.org/gallery/images1993/loria4.jpg

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vel525

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there's a guy in the group by section that produces some good looking wheels for a reasonable price. check it out. good luck.

Black91n/a

I really like those Enkei's, but they're not quite what I'd call affordable. Sure they're a reasonable frice, and far cheaper than many other options, but those will be $900 for four 17x8's, whereas my mustang wheels were only slightly heavier and cost less than a third of what those cost. Just think of what you can do with the extra $600, like get a set of good tires.

mycarisolderthanme

moemoney, those things are horrid.

vel525, check out his thread, and you'd see my post. those wheels would be a great value, but they won't look right on my fc. unfortunately, that company only produces the pino-r's (the style i'm interested in) in 18's.. which in my opinion have no place on fc's, besides verts.

vel525

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oops, didn't read through that entire thread.

89t295k

What do fwd wheels comprimise if they fit?
Is it load ratings?

My GT's weighed high 17 lbs, call em 18 if you want and are forged.

89t295k

Lots of aftermarket cast ones for the mustang going around...u need the oem ones to get forged.

Black91n/a

I've never known an OEM to forge wheels, it's an unneeded expense. Cast wheels are plenty strong. Can you show any proof to them being forged? Mine are OEM Mustang GT wheels off of the last generation car, same style as yours.

ARD T2

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So by FWD I mean:

Typically 7" wide, and a +40 or higher offset. What you sacrifice is a decent wheel track for one, a wide rear tire, two it looks seriously gay. Sorry couldn't think of any better words. I can't stand seeing a skinny wheel sunk all the way in a fender on a RWD car. It just bothers me.

Run the 7" or 7.5" wide wheel, but in a +25 offset or lower. hehe. The problem is those are very hard to find.

My standard fitment for a FC would be at least 8" wide all the way around. That's just me tho. Nobody has to live by my preferences. hehe.

Black91n/a

I agree, I like to see the wheels and tires fill up as much of the fender as possible, but with keeping the same size front and rear for handling and the ability to rotate tires. My 17x8's with 32mm offset fill the fenders nicely, they're fairly close to the fender, and don't ever rub. Perfect size IMHO.

It always looks funny to me to see big wheels that look sunk way into the wheel wells, and you know they're sacrifising the ability to run wide tires. I also hate it when people do a widebody and proceed to put tires on the car that wouldn't even fill up the stock fenders. Large staggers on FWD cars seriously bother me too, who wants 235's in front and 285's out back on FWD! It'll have neverending understeer.