ABS and different diameter tire
ABS and different diameter tire
I search on ABS and tire diameter, only found one comment that there maybe problem with ABS. I am starting this thread to get more knowledge pooled together here.
I want to know if there would be a problem with the ABS system, if I use different front and rear tire size.
My little knowlege on ABS system is that it measure wheel speed, so since I use different size, Will it be messing up the ABS?
Front: 245/45/16 ~ 24.7 OD
Rear: 245/50/16 ~ 25.7 OD
These are on stock rims 16x8 on an FD.
Thanks
Reza
I want to know if there would be a problem with the ABS system, if I use different front and rear tire size.
My little knowlege on ABS system is that it measure wheel speed, so since I use different size, Will it be messing up the ABS?
Front: 245/45/16 ~ 24.7 OD
Rear: 245/50/16 ~ 25.7 OD
These are on stock rims 16x8 on an FD.
Thanks
Reza
That's a good question. I beleive if you look at the sensor on each brake axle it looks for pulse sending it to the ABS. A mechanic told me at a Mazda dealer that any ABS system there has to be 90% to 100% pulse difference from any of the wheels before it turns on the ABS pump motor to pulsate the channel (wheel) that has lock condition.
So I don't think a 1"OD will effect the ABS. If anything the rears will pulse sooner during hard braking.
So I don't think a 1"OD will effect the ABS. If anything the rears will pulse sooner during hard braking.
Can we ask why you are contemplating this odd tire sizing? Why wouldn't you just run 225/50 or 245/45 on all four rims? I don't understand.....
The only thing I can think of is you are asking about putting drag radials on the rears.
The only thing I can think of is you are asking about putting drag radials on the rears.
I am not sure myself. I just want to put bigger tire in the back.
My goal all around is to have wider tire on stock rim. Until I have enough money for 17" rims.
But the front can only take 245/45/16 but the back can have bigger tire, so the biggest is 245/50/16.
I am starting auto-x, is this good idea to have different size?
Thanks
reza
My goal all around is to have wider tire on stock rim. Until I have enough money for 17" rims.
But the front can only take 245/45/16 but the back can have bigger tire, so the biggest is 245/50/16.
I am starting auto-x, is this good idea to have different size?
Thanks
reza
You are not making any sense. 245 is the width of the tire. 245/50 is not any wider than 245/45, the sidewalls are just taller. Just put 245/45 on all 4 wheels.
EDIT: Actually, if you want new tires for auto-crossing, I'd stick with 225/50s and just get very good tires. As SLeepR1 has pointed out many times, the best handling results from a properly matched tire/wheel combination. 225/50 on the stock rims may actually handle better than 245/45 because more of the tire is supported by the rim.
EDIT: Actually, if you want new tires for auto-crossing, I'd stick with 225/50s and just get very good tires. As SLeepR1 has pointed out many times, the best handling results from a properly matched tire/wheel combination. 225/50 on the stock rims may actually handle better than 245/45 because more of the tire is supported by the rim.
Last edited by rynberg; Dec 8, 2002 at 05:40 PM.
really?
I am currently on 225/50/16. The previous owner puts dunlop 8000 front and yoko A520 rear.
I feel the car to be very slipery, but that could also because I put throtle too much. I know I need to be smoother.
But I kept thinking that with wider tire, I would not be loose so much.
Everyone else here with FD runs 245s, so that is why I thought I better go with 245s street tires, and not go with race tires, until I got better handle of the car...
I am thinking of S03 or KDW or Ecsta Supra 712
Any suggestions?
Reza
I am currently on 225/50/16. The previous owner puts dunlop 8000 front and yoko A520 rear.
I feel the car to be very slipery, but that could also because I put throtle too much. I know I need to be smoother.
But I kept thinking that with wider tire, I would not be loose so much.
Everyone else here with FD runs 245s, so that is why I thought I better go with 245s street tires, and not go with race tires, until I got better handle of the car...
I am thinking of S03 or KDW or Ecsta Supra 712
Any suggestions?
Reza
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Define what you mean by the car being slippery. Is the front sliding going into turns; is the rear end coming out on you; is the whole car just drifting? Be a little more descriptive.
For one thing, I would NEVER drive around with two completely different tire brands/models on the car. Secondly, when's the last time the car had a 4-wheel alignment? Third, what conditions are the tires in? How are the front anti-roll bar mounts? Are they cracked? There's many reasons why you may be losing traction, including too heavy of a right foot....
BTW, avoid the Kumhos like the plague. I've heard they make great racing tires but their street tires are crap. Stick with the S-03s, KDWs, SP8000s, AVS Sports.
For one thing, I would NEVER drive around with two completely different tire brands/models on the car. Secondly, when's the last time the car had a 4-wheel alignment? Third, what conditions are the tires in? How are the front anti-roll bar mounts? Are they cracked? There's many reasons why you may be losing traction, including too heavy of a right foot....

BTW, avoid the Kumhos like the plague. I've heard they make great racing tires but their street tires are crap. Stick with the S-03s, KDWs, SP8000s, AVS Sports.
****, I'd almost say keep the 225's up front and run 245's in the rear so that you have a little more predictability. Will hopefully hold your back end a little more than it is. Having the same brand tires front and rear will help too. S-03's or T1s are a good way to go. They both have good wet weather as well. Along with the KDW from what I've read.
I'd stick with 225/50 up front and go 245 in the rear if you want some more meat. Sounds like you're starting out and would want some understeer.
I'd stick with 225/50 up front and go 245 in the rear if you want some more meat. Sounds like you're starting out and would want some understeer.
Amen on the tire advice... stick w/ 225/50 or 245/45 on the stock wheels, and the same brand for all four. Your choice on the stagger.
As far as the ABS, i wouldn't worry about it. I know of folks running A032s in 234/40/17 f and 275/40/17 rear (not optimal, but there are very few A032 sizes) with no ABS problems...
As far as the ABS, i wouldn't worry about it. I know of folks running A032s in 234/40/17 f and 275/40/17 rear (not optimal, but there are very few A032 sizes) with no ABS problems...






