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Old 03-29-02, 02:08 PM
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a032r's and v700's

i plan on using the a032r's for my street tires. they come in 245/45/16. i think they will fit but just want to check for sure. i heard that some tires of the same size are wider. dont know why. also, i plan on using the older kuhmos, v700's, cause they come in 245/45/16. will these again fit? i run ASP for autoX and plan on getting some good track days in this year. does anyone have feedback on both of these tires? oh yes, the v700's will be heat cycled before i get them.
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Don't know any FDs running the A302's, but everyone else I know runs the V700 or the Hoosier. Conventional Wisdom says the V700 sticks about 90% as well as the Hoosier and is cheaper. I have a set of each but have run neither yet as I am waiting for my RS008II's to die. Should have the V700's on within a month.

The A302's are still a race tire, they are not going to live long with everyday driving and they make a LOT of raod noise. Sound almost like mudders.
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I've had A032Rs, V700s, and currently run Hoosier R3S03. No contest...Hoosier R3S03 is hands down the winner in the sticky track tires wars. The V700s are more like 60% of Hoosier's ultimate stick...REALLY! The A032Rs were the worst track tires of all. To me they were just fast-wearing high performance road tires that were extremely loud on the interestates.

If you want roadworthy track tires, try Pirelli P-Zero Competitions/Corsas, or Michelin's new track tire...check the Tire Rack's website.

The BFG G-Force KDs are pretty good road/track tires too, but won't approach the ulimate stick of a Hoosier R3S03...or of a Kumho V700, for that matter!
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They're selling the Corsa's to the general public now? The Tire Rack's site doesn't list it yet (at least I didn't see it).
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I drove the A032R as my street tire and the A3S03 for racing... No comparison, the Hoosiers spank the Yoks on dry and even damp tracks, but the Yoks have excellent road drivability, and have never even hydroplaned for me on the street.. I am a little disappointed that they didn’t last / wear longer (took about 4000 mi to get them to the wear bars), and I did need to buy a better stereo.

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The New Kumho V700 is much better than the Yoko A032R. The model is NOT the victoracer. There is a new model called the Escata V700. Its R compound and it has 5 to 6 32nds worth of tread. Its my pick for a streetable R compound. Its also available in 18 inch diameters
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Has anyone tried the new Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel..._sport_cup.jsp

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Max, the Michelin Cups were the tires I was referring to for checking the Tire Rack. The Pirelli P-Zero Comps are being phased out, and all replacements will be the Corsas...sorry for the confusing post!

The Ecsta V700s looks like a great compromise tire (road/track)...only problem is the Ecsta V700 sizes are very limited...I'd like to try a set in 255/40-17 for my 9 x 17 SSR Integral A2 road wheels.
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I use the A032R on the street and A048 on the track.

I will get getting some Dunlop D01J and trying them on the track.

A032R is GREAT!!! street tire it give you feed back. I have used it on the track and its still a great tire but
the Hoosier R3S03 is more of a track tire.
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Yeah, Hoosiers ARE STRICTLY RACING TIRES! Hoosiers R3S03s are not to be used on the public roads.
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so will the 245/45-16 fit on a stock wheel?

i'm also considering the Yoko A032 for an FD that's not my daily driver...so treadwear and noise aren't THAT big of an issue...but i WOULD like them to last a few months while i save for new wheels.

i don't intend to see any track time soon, besides the occasional trip to the strip. i'll swap out with some Nitto 555 Drags for that...i think...any opinions there? (BTW those are 225/50's...more sidewall for the launch.)

...and will heat-cycling the A032s do anything to help me out?
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The 245/45-16 will fit, but they're a bit on the large side IMO. 245s generally fit better on 8.5 or 9-inch wide rims.

I recommend just getting some inexpensive sticky road tires like Yokohama AVS Intermediates. They'll stick about as well as A032R, much quieter, much cheaper, and last longer too...225/50-16s are probably dirt cheap from Tire Rack...$81 each!
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yeah, cheaper is definately better for short-term tires. i was just looking at those on Tirerack.com...they're $10 cheaper than the A520, which i used to wear through every 12,000 miles (when my car was driven daily). i always thought it was nice having a "7" in my tread design...

for some reason the A520 always seemed narrower than other tires of the same size (again, i used to ride on 225/45's). the thought of going to 245 was as an experimental idea at best.

maybe i'll just park it in the garage and save my money a few months until i can get new wheels. whoa, i can't do that! what am i thinking?

so how do the AVS Intermediates compare to the A520 with regard to stickyness?
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I haven't tried the A520s, so I have no basis of reference to compare the AVS I's to the A520s.

I can say that my current (and fairly new) 255/40-17 Yokohama AVS I's mounted on 9 x 17 SSR Integral A2s in 45-mm offsets all the way around, is confidence inspiring wet or dry.

I plan to run them for a few sessions at Putnam Park in 3 weeks, so I'll have a better idea of how they perform when pushed to road racing competition limits...

My first choice in road tires are the Bridgestone S-03s, but I just couldn't pass up the Yokohama AVS I's at $103 each for 255/40-17 (vs the S-03 at $200 each)...

I'm pleasantly surprised at how well the AVS I's perform on the road...For a 40-series profile I was expecting a much harder and noisier ride, but in fact the 255/40-17s are not much different feeling than the old 225/50-16 Pirelli P-Zeros on 8 x 16 wheels. Come to think of it, the AVS I's are quieter than the old Pirelli P-Zero Asimmetrics (in the stock size)!

Anyhow since I'm a rather sedate street driver, I felt getting S-03s would be a waste of money for road tires in my case.

BUT, I drive like a "man on a mission" on track, and I do 10 events per season, so I need the money for two sets of Hoosier R3S03s per season ($850 per set)!

Thus the decision to choose the AVS I's for the road...I'd bet the AVS I's make good rain track tires too...

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