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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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18x10 fitment question with setup (searched)

I plan on buying new wheels, tires, and suspension this winter. I plan on running either Tein Flex or HA's, along with CCW 18x10's on all four corners. Other than the Coilovers and rolling of fenders is there anything else I need to do to fit the wheels with either a 265/35 or 285/30? Any input would be appreciated. I searched and did not find anything that was helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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The 10s up front are going to be close even with the rolled fender. Be sure to have the right offset.

I am running 18x 8.5 front and 18x10 SSR GT3 rear
37 and 42mm offset respectively. 235/40 front and 265/35 rear. They fit perfect
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Re: 18x10 fitment question with setup (searched)

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I plan on buying new wheels, tires, and suspension this winter. I plan on running either Tein Flex or HA's, along with CCW 18x10's on all four corners. Other than the Coilovers and rolling of fenders is there anything else I need to do to fit the wheels with either a 265/35 or 285/30? Any input would be appreciated. I searched and did not find anything that was helpful. Thanks in advance.
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That is pretty much a track only setup IMO. Are you planning on doing this to a daily driver?

You will likely have no problems as long as you keep the ride height close to stock but every car is different....
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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i ran 18x9 and 18x10 , 255 front and 285 rear, no fender roll required. off set is 42 front and 45 rear. i have the flt-a2 no rub at all. i could go to 295 with roll fender.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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It is not my daily driver. I drive it about once a week on the street. Sometimes twice. I was told by someone with the same wheels that it was not a problem and he drives his car daily, but forgot to ask if I would need anything else along with that setup and I can't reach him now. I'm trying to avoid the staggered setup if possible. Thanks for the input.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by sst760
i ran 18x9 and 18x10 , 255 front and 285 rear, no fender roll required. off set is 42 front and 45 rear. i have the flt-a2 no rub at all. i could go to 295 with roll fender.
I have the same setup with 50+ and 52+


Offsets are spot on...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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For a street-driven car, I would not recommend running on 30-series tires .. if you value ride comfort. 35-series tires are still pushing it, IMO. A 275/40 17 is enough tire for most people and will provide much better "streetability". And you can go 17x9.5's for that tire size .... despite what all the so-called tire sizing experts will gag at.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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I run 18x9.5 SSR Competitions with 265/35 at all 4 corners. I love it. No rubbing at all. Looks great.

As a matter of fact I'll even sell them to you if you are interested. Let me know
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys I really do appreciate it. I realise that 35 series or for that matter 30 series are harsh on the street. I have had a car with 35's on there before. I am not looking to purchase right at this moment but it will be later this winter, so I'll keep the offer in mind 93 R1. I've seen a few people running the 10's all around I'm going to try and get ahold of them directly to see what if any issues they have.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by redrotorR1
For a street-driven car, I would not recommend running on 30-series tires .. if you value ride comfort. 35-series tires are still pushing it, IMO. A 275/40 17 is enough tire for most people and will provide much better "streetability". And you can go 17x9.5's for that tire size .... despite what all the so-called tire sizing experts will gag at.
275/40-17 street tires are too tall to run all the way around despite the naysayers' opinions--at 25.7 inches in overall tire diameter; besides 275s are much "happier" on 10 wides. The only way I'd do 275/40-17 is with Hoosier R3S03 or Kumho V700 Victoracer racing tires on 10 x 17 CCWs, 2-inch offset, 7.5-inch back space, run all the way around. 275/40-17 Hoosiers/Victoracers are 25.4-inches in overall tire diameter--only 0.4 inches taller than stock overall tire diameter of 25 inches. Tire tread widths are 11.2 inches across. Now that's some rubber on the road, brother!

10 x 18 with 285/30-18s all around driven once per week? I think I can handle that for the sake of performance and looks. I'd do that setup in a minute--if I had 2.5-inch outer diameter coil springs and shocks

If you have stock style aftermarket springs/shocks, like H&R springs/Bilstein HD shocks, then go with 9.5 x 17, 2-inch offset, 7.25-inch back space with 255/40-17 Kumho V700s all around (255/40-17s are stock overall tire diameters and 0.7 inches shorter than 275/40-17s LOL ) Perhaps you should consider that fitment instead? It's a popular max width symmetrical fitment for FD3S owners using stock style springs/shocks.

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I just sent an email last night to John P. at CCW regarding the same issue. I got the insight from Max Cooper's website which goes into detail regarding his 18x10 setup. Apparently, he went this direction because he could rotate the wheels without the use of spacers and buying trailing arms, which you would need with 17x10s all around.

If John responds I'll share his comments.

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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SleepR1 thanks a lot for that input that helps. I guess I'm just going to have to research a bit more. I'm leaning towards the Tein Flex as of now unless I'm still able to get the HA's or if I decide to just sack up and go for the RA's.

rceron if you could post any update you get it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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With my setup you don't need 2.5" diameter coilovers. They will fit with stock style springs. Which means its cheaper in the long run.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Well just for the hell of it do you have any pics you could send me or post? E-mail is Chandler0909@yahoo.com
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by rceron
I just sent an email last night to John P. at CCW regarding the same issue. I got the insight from Max Cooper's website which goes into detail regarding his 18x10 setup. Apparently, he went this direction because he could rotate the wheels without the use of spacers and buying trailing arms, which you would need with 17x10s all around.

If John responds I'll share his comments.

Ramon
I've read that 10 x 17 CCWs, 2-inch offset do fit all the way around without spacers on an FD3S. Not sure what's changed.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by 93 R1
With my setup you don't need 2.5" diameter coilovers. They will fit with stock style springs. Which means its cheaper in the long run.
Did I mention Comps are LIGHT, like 16 lbs or less!
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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I've read that 10 x 17 CCWs, 2-inch offset do fit all the way around without spacers on an FD3S. Not sure what's changed.
I'll ask John about the 50.8 mm offset for 17x10s all around--assuming he responds. Again, this info was basically taken from Max's web site--it may be dated.

The other interesting thing is whether tire prices for 285-18s will be better (and more tire choices) than 275-17s in the future.

Meanwhile the SSR are nice but the price of $2700 is high compared to say $2000 for CCWs. But this is function vs. form decision. I would think for the track that function would be first--but that's just me.

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Are you going to track the car, or is this a street application?
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Originally posted by rceron
I'll ask John about the 50.8 mm offset for 17x10s all around--assuming he responds. Again, this info was basically taken from Max's web site--it may be dated.

The other interesting thing is whether tire prices for 285-18s will be better (and more tire choices) than 275-17s in the future.

Meanwhile the SSR are nice but the price of $2700 is high compared to say $2000 for CCWs. But this is function vs. form decision. I would think for the track that function would be first--but that's just me.

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How about these Forgeline RS3 3-piece wheels! Yum! http://www.forgeline.com/wheels/rs3.html
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Apples to oranges. Forgeline is not at the same price point at CCW. If $$ where an issue I would have to go with Kinesis or Fikse.
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Well just for the hell of it do you have any pics you could send me or post? E-mail is Chandler0909@yahoo.com

Here's a link to my pics
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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very nice I'll keep those in mind.
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running 18x10 ccw's daily shouldn't pose a problem on the car but could on your back. they are definitely a rougher ride on the street all things being equal but are fine even with the crappy roads we have in san francisco. just soften up that suspension and everything should be fine. also, john is great but in my experience his e-mails are always very short and to the point. he is a busy guy so it's better to talk to him on the phone. i'd went with the 18's because of the wider 285 size that is available in the 18" diameter and the smaller overall diameter.


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Originally posted by rceron
I'll ask John about the 50.8 mm offset for 17x10s all around--assuming he responds. Again, this info was basically taken from Max's web site--it may be dated.

The other interesting thing is whether tire prices for 285-18s will be better (and more tire choices) than 275-17s in the future.

Meanwhile the SSR are nice but the price of $2700 is high compared to say $2000 for CCWs. But this is function vs. form decision. I would think for the track that function would be first--but that's just me.

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I have asked. !7 x 10's work fine for width and are symmetrical front and rear, assuming use of 2.5" springs. Problem is the tire height with the 275 in the front position only, it's okay in the rear. The fitment for height is better with the 285/18 setup.

I would consider the 18 x 10 to be a track only setup due to the reduced comfort level and, IMHO, the really wide tire on the front looks too wide. A staggered setup for the street looks better. Tire price is also a consideration as 18's are generally more expensive.

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Ok guess I will have call John at CCW.

Incidentally, what tires (for track) are you guys putting on the 18x10s. For longevity and price I will exclude Hoosiers and Michelin Super Cups, so that leaves me with Kumho, Toyo and Yokos. Toyo RA1s and Yoko A032 don't come in 285s and kumho only makes a 285-18 for there Ecsta line not their V700 Victoracers.

So what's left? How much would I expect to pay per tire?

Seems there are more tires at the 275-17x10 size. Although height setup in the front does seem like a good problem to avoid ,especially given that I will probabaly only run 500 lbs springs up front this season.

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