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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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What Size Injectors?? And Info?

im thinking of purchasing a single turbo setup for my 93 touring fd its 100% stock this is going to be my first upgrade... the turbo is a Garret TS04 Turbo he was boosting 19psi without fine tuning and had 404rwhp now im wondering what exact stuff do i need??::

Size Injectors?
Fuel Pump?
do i need a haltek?
do i need a SAFC?

what do you guys exactly think i need for this setup...

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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What you need is... to use the search function, because this topic has been covered probably a few more than too many times!!!
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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useful info would be great not info saying to use a f*cking search button i tried either search button is broken or iono but nothing for the turbo im looking at....
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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You will need bigger secondary injectors (1300-1600cc) if you plan on making 400+ rwhp, an aftermarket fuel pump (Supra or other, perhaps Aeromotive A1000 if you don't mind noise), and you will ABSOLUTELY require an aftermarket ECU. Take your pick: Haltech, Apexi... I like the Haltech (thatr's what I run with my T78).

Why don't you consult with the guy who is selling you the turbo, he can tell you what was done to his car to make 404 right? If you plan to make more, overbuild. You'll want to port your motor once it blows (if it's still stock and original, it's probably just a matter of time).

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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your first ugprade is a single turbo?
WOW is your bank account in for a shock! its not just changing the turbo, it is all the supporting mods that is going to hurt your wallet.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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o i know what its going to cost this isnt really for me its for my dad he can afford it i own a TII that is currently my beater has purchased a 93 touring rx7 neways so i can stay stock with the primays but upgrade the secondarys??and the thing about asking the guy about his turbo he doesnt want to reply back to any of the emails i send him =/ so thats why im asking here and do you know anyone in the florida area that can tune a haltek?
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Things you'll need:
New secondary injectors
Fuel pump
IC
Radiator
Aftermarket EMS (depending which you choose a 3 bar map sensor also)
With a touring model you may want to try finding someone selling their other oil cooler from an R1 or do an upgrade
beefier clutch

that's stuff that comes to mind now
I did this about a year ago and it cost me between 8-10k to convert
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Since I am in the middle of doing a single conversion I will let you know all the basics:
Turbo-Manifold-Downpipe-wastegate-oil lines-block off plates-filter for turbo-Bigger secondary's-fuel rail with lines-fuel pump-Upgraded ECU-Boost control-FMIC or bigger stock mount-might as well do radiator at this point-ignition-Mid Pipe-Cat back-Clutch (Stronger)-Most important TUNNING!

I am sure there are a few things I forgot to list but here is a starting point for you..... As far the fuel system goes just buy the kit from Keith (KGparts.com)
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Hoses Part Number
HOSE UPPER RAD 93-95 15-186B-N3A1 $23.13
HOSE LOWER RAD 93-95 15-185B-N3A1 $15.04
HOSE HEATER 93-95 CORE TO PIPE R 61-211A-FD01 $8.02
HOSE HEATER 93-95 PIPE TO CORE L 61-212A-FD01 $8.51
HOSE HEATER 93-95 PIPE TO RAD(R) 61-214B-FD01 $14.46
HOSE HEATER 93-95 ENG TO PIPE(L) 61-213B-FD01 $13.22
HOSE WATER DISCONECT 93-95 61-240A-B455 $9.42
HOSE WATER 93-95 TT FILLER NECK TO TANK 15-183A-N3A1 $16.43
HOSE WATER 93-95 TT LOWER RAD TO TANK 15-184A-N3A1 $25.25
HOSE WATER 93-95 TT PIPE TO THROTLEBODY 13-691A-N3A1 $8.99
HOSE WATER 93-95 TT TURBO TO RADIATOR 13-5360-N3A1 $5.51
HOSE WATER 93-95 TT WATER PUMP TO TURBO 13-54X0-N3A1 $10.16
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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^ those are the water hoses you'll need.
$150 for hoses
$400 for the radiator
$150 for AST (if you keep it)
$1000+ for FMIC (or SMIC or V-Mount)
$800 for Fuel kit from Keith
$150 fuel pump
$120 to clean injectors, balance/calibrate
$50 fuel filter
$400 clutch
$200 pullies
$1200 Haltech
$65 BOP's
$300 tuning (dyno time ~$85/hr)
$100 Midpipe
$500 Cat-back
$200 ignition amp
$90 in Redline diff and tranny oil


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...906754471&rd=1

$$ whatever yuo can get that for

that's about 8k right there...these are all estimates.

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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Since it's obvious you know nothing about what's involved, I strongly suggest you just take the car to a GOOD FD performance shop, tell them you want a single turbo, and let them handle it. As the car is completely stock, it will probably be at least $10k to do it right.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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i seriously ******* hate people like you no offense but if your not gonna help with useful info pls dont ******* post at all.... im up for a challenge putting people down doesnt help im guessing it makes you feel better? iono but dont post again if your not gonna help me out
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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CHil-CHil Bro..... The info may not be what you asked for but it is the truth. If you are new to the 13b scene its not worth it to put all that money into it to blow your motor a week later... I just added up all my parts and its around 15k! But that is including wheels and such....
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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im not new to the 13b or the rotary scene i currently own 2 3rd gen rx7 and 1 2nd gen TII i know how everything works i mean i was asking a simple question and you have people like rynberg who make assumptions that you dont know anything....
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Cosmo fuel pump or Walbro
720 primary ('85 SE) and 1600 (secondary)
plus supporting mods (rail, ECU, etc.)

that's just my opinion on how to do this 400 HP-thing .. but i don't have 400 HP so i could be full-of-****!
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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doesnt 85'SE comes with 680's ?
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