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Old 08-16-12, 01:44 PM
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Weird (i guess wastegate related) problem

I've got a T04B Turbo with an external Tial 38mm-Wastegate in my RX7 Turbo II and since yesterday i've got a weird problem with the boost pressure. The car runs great with normal boost till round about 6000rpm but if i try to get higher than 6000, the boost pressure immediately goes down to 0psi.
What the hell could be wrong here? The car was running fine for about 8 weeks and then this happened.
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Check for boost leaks.

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Do you really think it could be possible that a boost leak causes the boost to drop from 10psi to 0psi exactly at 6000rpm?
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The same could be said about your wastegate theory. Boost leak tests can find other issues as well. But to answer your question, yes its possible.

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Wow. Didn't thinks so but i'm going to search for leaks tomorrow. Any suggestions where i should start searching?
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does it feel like its misfiring at 6krpm?
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No. It's just losing all the boost pressure but keeps getting faster. It's not the fuel cut.
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could also be the backpressure over powering the wg spring and opening it.
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Which would cause more boost, not less. But that does bring something else to mind, do you have a cat on this thing? Could be clogged.

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Wow. Didn't thinks so but i'm going to search for leaks tomorrow. Any suggestions where i should start searching?
This is how you test for boost leaks... (normally you put a gauge on it to see how much pressure your putting in). Crank it up to 20 PSi and see what blows off and/or leaks.



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by over powering i meant pushing the valve fully open, venting all the gases.
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Whatever pressure is being applied on the wastegate, is also being applied on the turbo.

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I've got a cat on the RX7 but it's brand new and it's a 100 cpi one so i guess it should be ok. I don't think the wastegate can be pushed open because of back pressure the way i connected it. It's connected to the manifold on one side and to the downpipe on the other side so it should really get always the same pressure as the turbo.

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If not boost leak (reasonably likely), rag in the intercooler is a good one, gets picked up when you reach that flow level consistently, or soft turbo inlet pipe/filter collapsing on itself.
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Didn't have enough time for vaccum testing til now but i found out i've got a blown seal between the manifold and the turbo. I ordered a new one today. Might that cause my problem?
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Problem solved. It really was the blown seal. Amazing how much trouble such a sall piece of metal can cause.


Thanks for all your suggestions and help.
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