kenn_chan

Anybody got some info on the new Turbonetics F1 turbine wheels? are they simply a rebadged garret wheel or what? specificaly they offer three sizes F1 62 mm F1 65 mm and F1 68 mm are these simply rebadged O, P, and Q trim wheels?

Kenn

teachermechanic

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Turbonetics turbine: it's "Q" trim same size but better efficiency
http://www.turboneticsownersclub.com...eb2c8e7fe02beb

JEROME

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Howard Coleman

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FYI...........


posted to the Turbonetics Forum today.

"received the following Private Message at RX7club.com this A M

"Hey howard, still trying to decide on a turbo and I came across this (http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1841) a twin scroll GT35R. Now, I'm waiting to see the results of your back to back turbo comparison before I purchase anything as I want to see some data for myself.
In my build, I'm looking to have a very broad power band (aiming for ~15 PSI 2500-3300). If I were to go with the twin scroll ball bearing turbo, would I be getting the low end response I'm looking for, or should I just not bother and go with a GT3582R? and where do you think I should expect to see power die off around? I want to have something that carries half strong all the way to 9k but mostly looking for the instant response."

i did a bit of research starting w the link at Full-Race and eventually ended at the turbonetics website which led me to the T forum... my compliments on your forum.

i am a rotary guy... the GT3582r and a journal bearing variant w a real T4 divided backend is very popular w the rotary community. divided pays dividends w the rotary.

since so many run the GT3582r i am always interested in varients and it appears that Turbonetics may offer something interesting, especially w the rotary which places a big value a on larger (than piston) hotside.

the Full Race site does not offer the specs on the F1 wheel... i would like to know the two diameters and just which wheel it is... 54, 57,62?

also i note in the blog section a Turbonetics Billet compressor is mentioned. is that wheel currently available in the general GT35 configuration?

finally, in the next 3 weeks i am conducting something that might be of interest to Turbonetics. i will be conducting what is now a 4 turbo comparision. i say comparison rather than dyno test as i will be generating lots more data than just top tick hp. i log exhaust back pressure, two (one for each rotor) pre-turbo EGTs, along w all the other usual data. all on the same motor, all in one (multi day) session. i have a modular downpipe to adapt to all four (T4 divided) turbos as well as two new properly fixtured intercoolers.

i will be comparing a Garrett GT3582r, a Garrett (via ATP) GT3574 (journal bearing, T4 diivided w a P trim turbine), a Borg Warner S300s 63 mm ind, and a GT4094r. all T4, all w V band exhaust, all divided.

if Turbonetics had any interest i would be especially interested in evaluating their best GT35 iteration. there, IMO, is not as much talk as there probably should be on Turbonetics offerings and my dyno thread already has over 13,000 reads. i wouldn't be looking to own the turbo, just evaluate it and return it.

here's the link to the evaluation thread... separating fiction from reality... a couple of days on the DYNO - RX7Club.com

page 6, post 141 show some of the hardware generated to do the comparo.

finally, the test will be done 100% objectively. i have zero economic interest in the outcome.

i am delighted to join the Turbonetics forum and a big hello to all.

BTW, a rotary requires 1.92 CFM to make one rwhp...

howard coleman"

Trots*88TII-AE*

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From what I've read, the F1 line takes the old P and Q trims (for 65 and 68 mm's), re-did the aero to be more efficient and ended up with a "taller" wheel. Same inducer/exducers, but more surface area. I think Crispeed had a picture with the two side-by-side. I know one thing for sure, the turbine housings are not inter-changeable.

Jimmy2222

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http://turboneticsinc.com/forum/tech...-f1-gt35r.html

That would be pretty interesting eh howard? If Turbonetics infact did pull through, would you do it?

Looks like a pretty familiar PM, glad to see I've sparked some interest.

joeylyrech

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That is correct,you cant use a regular P or Q trim housing on a F series wheel.I have a T78 turbonetics that came with a non divided .96 AR hot side with a F68 turbine wheel,i purchased a regular Q trim divided 1.15 AR housing and tried 2 use it and it did not work cause the F68 wheel was taller.I sent out the housing 2 get machined in order 2 fit the taller wheel and now it works great,spool up is fast and boost hits more nicely.

Howard Coleman

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"If Turbonetics infact did pull through, would you do it?"

yes.

another iteration of the GT35 would be of great interest. items of interest would be the Turbonetics ported shroud, the different profile turbine wheel and the ceramic dual BB CHRA.

hc

ScorpionT

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Its true the F1 wheels are just updated versions of the old Garrett wheels.