Turbo 85 FB, Adaptronic, VMount, Borla TB..much more
11-03-13, 09:22 AM
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Turbo 85 FB, Adaptronic, VMount, Borla TB..much more
Hi folks,
I usually stick to the 1st gen section but now it's time to ascend to the single turbo section. I'm going to catch a lot of hell for my build for time being but we shall see how it turns out in the end. I have a fresh streetported S5 n/a that I am currently in the works of building a turbo setup within my Montego Blue 85 FB. Aaron Cake has already warned me, but Ive also heard it is infact possible at lower boost. Dave at Speed 1 seems to think if I keep it around 10psi , I'll be fine.
Some of the highlights are going to be:
Devils Own WI
V mount IC setup
Borla TB w/ EV14 injectors
T04E turbo
Adaptronic 440 Universal ecu
Battery relocation
Samsung Galaxy Pad install [ much like XLR8s ]
So far here are some pics of my progress.
(And yes for the love of god if anyone wants to trade or if you have offers on the n/a S5 engine for a nice preferably ported TII block instead.. Im all ears, Im well aware of the inevitability of what I am doing )
I usually stick to the 1st gen section but now it's time to ascend to the single turbo section. I'm going to catch a lot of hell for my build for time being but we shall see how it turns out in the end. I have a fresh streetported S5 n/a that I am currently in the works of building a turbo setup within my Montego Blue 85 FB. Aaron Cake has already warned me, but Ive also heard it is infact possible at lower boost. Dave at Speed 1 seems to think if I keep it around 10psi , I'll be fine.
Some of the highlights are going to be:
Devils Own WI
V mount IC setup
Borla TB w/ EV14 injectors
T04E turbo
Adaptronic 440 Universal ecu
Battery relocation
Samsung Galaxy Pad install [ much like XLR8s ]
So far here are some pics of my progress.
(And yes for the love of god if anyone wants to trade or if you have offers on the n/a S5 engine for a nice preferably ported TII block instead.. Im all ears, Im well aware of the inevitability of what I am doing )
11-03-13, 11:05 AM
#2
Why would you catch hell for this? Just be careful with timing, and make sure you have proper fuel. Throw in some aux. injection for added peace of mind.
This was a big no-no up until people got smart(er) and stopped using the stock ECU. That's why they always blew up.
This was a big no-no up until people got smart(er) and stopped using the stock ECU. That's why they always blew up.
11-03-13, 11:14 AM
#3
My concern is the from what many people have told me. Mainly that the irons weren't meant to handle the pressure of high compression with boost thrown into the mix. I was warned that after 10 psi I run high risk of cracking irons. I'm not looking for big power, 300whp is my goal.
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11-03-13, 12:06 PM
#5
Exactly. Also with a RS232 bluetooth dongle to my adaptronic ecu, I can watch gauge interfaces and many other options right on the pad. I cant take credit for the idea tho... My might as well be older brother Josh (XLR8 on here) came up with the install and hardware to integrate it into the cars sound system.
11-03-13, 09:00 PM
#6
yea i must admit i am doing the same with my old nexus 7 and idea came from your bro.i dont particularly like gauges and this way with megasquirt can change them as i see the need to monitor different stats.i like how it fits in you center piece!
looks to be a cool build.what is that throttle?
p.s make sure your bro dont go to dark side.his car is a animal and would be sad to think it had a big donk in there
looks to be a cool build.what is that throttle?
p.s make sure your bro dont go to dark side.his car is a animal and would be sad to think it had a big donk in there
11-03-13, 10:00 PM
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Mighty Car Mods did a video on an iPad in-dash installation. FCinWV I like the idea of using bluetooth to display your tuning options on the screen! Way cleaner and simpler than riding around with a netbook in the glove compartment like I did with my STI Forester 
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11-03-13, 10:17 PM
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yea i must admit i am doing the same with my old nexus 7 and idea came from your bro.i dont particularly like gauges and this way with megasquirt can change them as i see the need to monitor different stats.i like how it fits in you center piece!
looks to be a cool build.what is that throttle?
p.s make sure your bro dont go to dark side.his car is a animal and would be sad to think it had a big donk in there
looks to be a cool build.what is that throttle?
p.s make sure your bro dont go to dark side.his car is a animal and would be sad to think it had a big donk in there
11-10-13, 08:33 AM
#14
My Borla throttle body and plenum arrived from the polisher yesterday. The plenum was built by Rotary Shack. I plan on running 4 1000cc EV14 injectors, two in the TB and two in the stock primary bungs.
Without further delay here she is,
Without further delay here she is,
11-10-13, 09:23 AM
#15
You can go ahead and adapt my S5 N/A turbo base timing map that Rtek guys are using. Y axis is manifold relative pressure in psi. X axis is rpm.
compare to the stock s5 n/a timing maps (which are based on airflow meter signal, so basically look at the top line)
compare to the stock s5 n/a timing maps (which are based on airflow meter signal, so basically look at the top line)
11-26-13, 09:17 PM
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I have those same TB's on my gsl-se. Stock block with aux sleeves pulled and 3mm Atkins seals. Runs to 11 psi on a 60-1 with no issues. About to swap clutches to run more boost. 1000cc primaries in the stock spot and 1600 secondaries. Love every thing about it and would never look back.
Beautiful manifold setup! Keep it coming! Let's show the FD boys how this whole party got started!
Beautiful manifold setup! Keep it coming! Let's show the FD boys how this whole party got started!
11-26-13, 09:24 PM
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I have those same TB's on my gsl-se. Stock block with aux sleeves pulled and 3mm Atkins seals. Runs to 11 psi on a 60-1 with no issues. About to swap clutches to run more boost. 1000cc primaries in the stock spot and 1600 secondaries. Love every thing about it and would never look back.
Beautiful manifold setup! Keep it coming! Let's show the FD boys how this whole party got started!
Beautiful manifold setup! Keep it coming! Let's show the FD boys how this whole party got started!
11-26-13, 09:34 PM
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some pics of the process and finished product
I made the fuel lines from 3/8 stainless and fed both fuel rails from a T, then we T'ed them back together to go to the regulator
had to clearance the stock lower intake just a wee bit to clear the 60-1
1 thing I will mention (but you might now anyway)
use both of those fittings on the ITB's to feed your MAP sensor. I ran one to the Microtech, and the other to a boost guage, and the pulsations confused the ECU a bit at idle. No big deal, but it didn't like slow driving around town. Ran them to a small vacuum T then to the MAP sensor, and it cleared right up. Even let us clean the maps up for boost a bit.
I made the fuel lines from 3/8 stainless and fed both fuel rails from a T, then we T'ed them back together to go to the regulator
had to clearance the stock lower intake just a wee bit to clear the 60-1
1 thing I will mention (but you might now anyway)
use both of those fittings on the ITB's to feed your MAP sensor. I ran one to the Microtech, and the other to a boost guage, and the pulsations confused the ECU a bit at idle. No big deal, but it didn't like slow driving around town. Ran them to a small vacuum T then to the MAP sensor, and it cleared right up. Even let us clean the maps up for boost a bit.
11-26-13, 10:41 PM
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being in nz we dont have this type of injected throttle body what they go for in US $ also what size throttles do they have?these fbs turboed must be a hell of alot of fun.we looking at building one for a cheap drag car.what sort of hp you aiming for?
11-27-13, 06:28 AM
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We are right at about 375-400 when the clutch starts slipping. I have the 50mm bodies, cost 475 with the fuel rail. Australia has the Perfection Injection TB's, which have ports for 4 injectors plus what ever you run in the stock holes. Probably works out to be the same price by time you ship them to NZ
11-27-13, 08:01 AM
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We are right at about 375-400 when the clutch starts slipping. I have the 50mm bodies, cost 475 with the fuel rail. Australia has the Perfection Injection TB's, which have ports for 4 injectors plus what ever you run in the stock holes. Probably works out to be the same price by time you ship them to NZ
11-27-13, 08:04 AM
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some pics of the process and finished product
I made the fuel lines from 3/8 stainless and fed both fuel rails from a T, then we T'ed them back together to go to the regulator
had to clearance the stock lower intake just a wee bit to clear the 60-1
1 thing I will mention (but you might now anyway)
use both of those fittings on the ITB's to feed your MAP sensor. I ran one to the Microtech, and the other to a boost guage, and the pulsations confused the ECU a bit at idle. No big deal, but it didn't like slow driving around town. Ran them to a small vacuum T then to the MAP sensor, and it cleared right up. Even let us clean the maps up for boost a bit.
I made the fuel lines from 3/8 stainless and fed both fuel rails from a T, then we T'ed them back together to go to the regulator
had to clearance the stock lower intake just a wee bit to clear the 60-1
1 thing I will mention (but you might now anyway)
use both of those fittings on the ITB's to feed your MAP sensor. I ran one to the Microtech, and the other to a boost guage, and the pulsations confused the ECU a bit at idle. No big deal, but it didn't like slow driving around town. Ran them to a small vacuum T then to the MAP sensor, and it cleared right up. Even let us clean the maps up for boost a bit.