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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Silly single turbo/turbolag questions

To get max power from a given turbocharged engine, you need to use a big ****'d turbo...? When you use a big phatty turbo, you get big phatty lag... I know ball bearing turbos have helped, but not completely deleted lag. SO...that said, if you want 500-600 hp from a 2 rotor engine, can you get it with next to ZERO lag using a single turbo? (and I don't mean with a $10k inconel F1 turbo)

Hypothetical Question #2: if you were to use say 2 smaller turbo's in parallel, does the boost pressure stack/add? I mean, 2 T3/T4's running 15psi each equal 30psi?

If so, would that be better than a big turbo running 30psi?

and finally, which do you prefer: the Girlscout cookies or the Girlscouts?

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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I like puting the cookies on the girls.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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You have much to learn about the way of the turbo young padawan.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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I like puting the cookies on the girls.
you scare me.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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simple rule of thumb, bigger the turbo the more lag. BB only helps out so much. turbo boost does not stack with two turbos. 15 psi is 15 psi, no matter if you have 1 turbo 2 turbos or 10 turbos. The only difference is that bigger turbos flow more air then smaller turbos.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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That makes sense. And yes, I have much to learn about the miracle of boost.
All I want is a 450-500hp FC3S RX7 that's fun and easy to drive...is that so wrong?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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450-500 at the engine or at the wheels?
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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400rwhp is not realy easy to drive. Well, not under full throttle anyways. I'm fairy new to the 400+club, and it takes some getting use to. CJ
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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a big turbo and a little nitrous fixes anythin..

my ideal setup would be a full bridge port with a hks t51 spl and a lil shot of n20 to help get it off the line
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Re: Silly single turbo/turbolag questions

Originally posted by Slipstream
To get max power from a given turbocharged engine, you need to use a big ****'d turbo...?
Define "max power"...

When you use a big phatty turbo, you get big phatty lag...
Uh, not all the time.

I know ball bearing turbos have helped, but not completely deleted lag.
Uh, not necessarily true.

SO...that said, if you want 500-600 hp from a 2 rotor engine, can you get it with next to ZERO lag using a single turbo? (and I don't mean with a $10k inconel F1 turbo)
Sure.

Hypothetical Question #2: if you were to use say 2 smaller turbo's in parallel, does the boost pressure stack/add? I mean, 2 T3/T4's running 15psi each equal 30psi?
NO.

If so, would that be better than a big turbo running 30psi?
Your assumption is wrong, so this question is irrelevant.

and finally, which do you prefer: the Girlscout cookies or the Girlscouts?
dumbass


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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Wow Ted, thanks for your insightful reply. In the future keep your smartass comments to yourself. If I wanted attitude, I'd talk to my mother-in-law. It's people like you that make a hostile environment on message boards. Let me offer you a piece of advice: GROW UP! While I may be new to rotaries and turbos, I am NOT new to fast cars and making horsepower. I have owned over 20 fast cars in my life. I have even owned a R33 GTR when I lived in Melbourne Australia. So the next time you want to look down your nose at someone and make assumptions, do everyone a favor: DONT. You are not any better, smarter, faster, etc than anyone else so get over it.


BTW: The girlscout question was s'posed to be funny.

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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Ted's Knowledge > Slipstream's Knowledge

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

"Watch your mouth, n00b."

And since you've edited while I was posting, I will also say: If you owned an R33, how the hell do you not know the basics of turbocharging?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Slipstream
Wow Ted, thanks for your insightful reply. In the future keep your smartass comments to yourself. If I wanted attitude, I'd talk to my mother-in-law. It's people like you that make a hostile environment on message boards. Let me offer you a piece of advice: GROW UP! While I may be new to rotaries and turbos, I am NOT new to fast cars and making horsepower. I have owned over 20 fast cars in my life. I have even owned a R33 GTR when I lived in Melbourne Australia. So the next time you want to look down your nose at someone and make assumptions, do everyone a favor: DONT. You are not any better, smarter, faster, etc than anyone else so get over it.
Funny, you ask very ignorant turbo questions, and then you try to come over the top with your supposedly superior automobile experience?  Somehow I highly doubt this - you're either lying or the type of person with a fat checkbook.


BTW: The girlscout question was s'posed to be funny.
Wow, all of a sudden you're allowed to be funny, and I can't?

My daughter is in the girl scouts, and I don't see ANYTHING funny about what you said.


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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by $150FC
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

"Watch your mouth, n00b."
LOL, You tell'm Victor!!

Seriously, you might not want to get into it with some of the more knowledgeable people on the board.... might not get the answers you are looking for in the future.

To your post, I think your questions were answered. I will only add, that achieving 400 RWHP HP is not cheap, but there does seem to be a basic formula for it... Getting to 500 isn't quite as systematic, and takes considerably more effort IMO.

That said 400 HP in an FC is down right scary. You definately need to re-learn the car as someone else said. 470 is the most I've driven in an FC... and holy hell, I can't imagine much faster than that!!!

-Chris
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by carx7
that achieving 400 RWHP HP is not cheap, but there does seem to be a basic formula for it
formula please?
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