Single Turbo RX-7's Questions about all aspects of single turbo setups.

re blow through turb setup

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 29, 2004 | 10:03 PM
  #1  
high-RPM's Avatar
Thread Starter
RX7 F0RUM > reallife™
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Perth (Australia)
re blow through turb setup

hey guys...

yesterday, after asking somebodu how many psi a 13b n/a can take, i was told that the 13b would not handle any boost.... and turboing the engine would destroy it....

after the positive feedback i've had so far on this forum, i can't help but wonder, is this guy wanting me to have the work done there so he can get more cash??? (he works for a rotary modification shop) or is he being more realistic and concerned about my engine??

he said "the internals are completely different and the non turbo engine would be destroyed"

what're your thoughts?

thanks heaps

- Ben
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 10:38 AM
  #2  
XLR8's Avatar
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
iTrader: (52)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,902
Likes: 10
From: NJ
It would handle boost fine...........Just for not real long and you would have to fabricate an Exhaust manifold or modify a TII one for there was never one designed for a 6port engine.

The difference between a TII 13b and an NA 13b are important when it comes to boost... The TII rotors are of a lower compression then NA. This is important for detination can occur more easily with a higher compression and a higher octane is required for a higher level of boost and compression. Also, the 4 port design of the TII engine can be ported to flow better then the 6port........Since you have an 84-85 13b, it has 3mm apex seals from the factory and is considered an upgrade from the smaller 2mm when boost is involved...

The problem is putting boost to a high mileage engine with high compression....Not that it won't work, just that the seals will not take the stress. And if your going to get a rebuild you might as well go with a TII block. I have seen builders use NA rotors in 4port blocks for power setups but then again you sacrifice longevity and reliability for HP.

So your mechanic is half right.
Personally I would buy a J-spec and do it right.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2004 | 11:29 AM
  #3  
high-RPM's Avatar
Thread Starter
RX7 F0RUM > reallife™
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Perth (Australia)
okay then.... is a blow through better than a stock computer setup... considering i've already got the holley 650
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 05:07 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 596
Likes: 0
From: Castle Rock Washignton
Right now I am working on a turbo setup with a carbed 76 4 port 13b... I would imagin you would make more power with the carb and a rb manifold then you would with the stock manifold and the fuel injection setup... more of a pain to get working correctly mabey... you have to mod the carb extensivly I just dont know what all you have to do to it... You make more power with bigger exaughst... gets the gasses out quicker... more power with a more free flowing intake side as well... how much more... well we will see >
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 05:49 AM
  #5  
luiml73's Avatar
Rotary Powered Boobies
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 2,530
Likes: 0
From: Miami Beach
Blow through turbo can make tons of power, but will waste tons of fuel$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you have the money best bet is to buy a Aftermarket
ECU Microtech/Haltech and find a T2 engine.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 09:21 AM
  #6  
Directfreak's Avatar
I am a Jeeper Now.
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 4
From: 3OH5
Originally posted by luiml73
Blow through turbo can make tons of power, but will waste tons of fuel$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you have the money best bet is to buy a Aftermarket
ECU Microtech/Haltech and find a T2 engine.
I currently have a blow through, and will be switching back to a Haltech E6K for this very reason.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:32 PM
  #7  
high-RPM's Avatar
Thread Starter
RX7 F0RUM > reallife™
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
From: Perth (Australia)
i've decided that i'd like my engine to last a little while longer

so im going to have it ported instead.... i'll wait till i can afford a T2 before i have some turbo fun
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:47 PM
  #8  
680RWHP12A's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 4,666
Likes: 2
From: chatsworth,Ca.
bottom line is to make big h/p numbers you have to burn fuel.....its simple the more power you make the more fuel you use.....

i had a blowthrough setup on my car and it used tons of fuel, i switched over to EFI and it still uses tons of fuel!!!! the only difference i noticed is im missing about $5,000!!!!!
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:03 PM
  #9  
POKINATCHA's Avatar
Junior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
Originally posted by 680RWHP12A
i had a blowthrough setup on my car and it used tons of fuel, i switched over to EFI and it still uses tons of fuel!!!! the only difference i noticed is im missing about $5,000!!!!! [/B]
That is a great line.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Shainiac
Single Turbo RX-7's
12
Jul 17, 2019 02:20 PM
alexdimen
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
20
Oct 23, 2015 01:50 PM
danielbradley2
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
11
Sep 28, 2015 10:44 PM
Devon300zx
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
3
Sep 17, 2015 03:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 PM.