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Old 02-24-02, 08:34 AM
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Question PFC or Haltech

I am getting fuel rail with 1600`s to supply a single turbo. My ? is that I have bought a PFC before i was going to the single, should I go with the Haltech or the New AEM, or stick with the PFC. Are the 1600`s hard to tune on the PFC?
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if you go to k2rd.com they have a kit where you can just plug in the haltec without any wiring... kinda like the pfc... and it doesnt care what kind of injectors you have high or low impedance 1cc-1600cc
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i go with the Haltech. from what i know is that PFC does not have maps for 1600cc injectors and the max boost is around 17psi. Anything more will require you to change the map sensors.

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AEM without a daot
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Originally posted by amemiya
AEM without a daot
Maybe you could elaborate on this post.
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With the Power FC you could run 1600cc. As for the AEM, I thought that this unit wasn't available yet. As for the Haltech it's pretty expensive to install, $700-800 and this is without tuning. Also, you might want to consider sending out your PFC to XS to have them tune it for you.
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You might wanna stick with the PFC. Check out the ECU section for info on the new Datalogit that lets you access all the paramaters of the PFC.
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The PFC is a total POS.....I know more than 10 people that have blown their motors due to the faulty timing issue's with the Power Fc. I would go with a proven system like the Haltech or Motec. The AEM hasn't even been installed on any car yet so to say AEM is the the only choice is plain assinine.
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Originally posted by ErnieT
The AEM hasn't even been installed on any car yet so to say AEM is the the only choice is plain assinine.
I agree, even when the new AEM finally makes it out, the support for it will be 0 for a while. Not everyone know's how to tune the Haltech but it has been out longer so there is a wider help base.
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There is a new plug and play harness for the Haltech, has anyone used this harness, and is it that much easier? Who could you send the Haltech for tuning?

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Originally posted by ErnieT
The PFC is a total POS.....I know more than 10 people that have blown their motors due to the faulty timing issue's with the Power Fc. I would go with a proven system like the Haltech or Motec. The AEM hasn't even been installed on any car yet so to say AEM is the the only choice is plain assinine.

Ernie, I have heard the Motec doen't work very well with the rotary motor!
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Originally posted by ErnieT
The PFC is a total POS.....I know more than 10 people that have blown their motors due to the faulty timing issue's with the Power Fc.
Can you elaborate on these timing issues? Was it a tuning fault or a factory/design type fault? I'm really concerned now because I have a brand new PFC tuned by XS to be installed in my car with their T04E system.
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The exception with the Power Fc is if you have access to the power excel software so you will be fine.
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If it's just PFC vs Haltech, I would get the haltech. Reasons:
laptop tuning much much easier then commander and able to access all parameters.
Data logging
Ease of install with K2rd's harness.
I don't mind premixing because I am doing it now.
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Bucrx7,
With the FC-Datalogit (<$300, now shipping) you get all those things with the PFC. Laptop, logging, access to all params (incl larger secondary injectors), ease of install, no premix, and support from others on maps, etc.
Granted, there are only a few Datalogits out there so far, so some of the features, such as logging wideband and other inputs are still being proven.

All this is from what I've read, not experience personally - so please do your homework.
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Originally posted by ErnieT
The exception with the Power Fc is if you have access to the power excel software so you will be fine.
Whew! Thanks, I needed to hear that!
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