Need input on fast spooling turbo
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Need input on fast spooling turbo
I was wondering how much would you paid for a turbo that spool faster than a ball bearing turbo and it boost 1 lb. at idle? I think it spool 2k-3k rpm faster than ball bearing turbo. Please let me know what think?
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I know I'm a little crazy but what if there's a turbo that does it? How much would you be willing to paid for like a gt42 that gets full boost faster 2-3k rpm than a gt42r?
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Is this like: "How much is Alien technology worth?" What you are talking about is a radical technology jump which would make small turbos obsolete and lag a thing of the past. You have an idea that you would care to share or is this pie in the sky thinking?
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I know I'm a little crazy but what if there's a turbo that does it? How much would you be willing to paid for like a gt42 that gets full boost faster 2-3k rpm than a gt42r?
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What are you talking about?! Yea I will agree, you are crazy in the head, as this question is really
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Originally Posted by 13BT_RX3
Three wheel turbo? Third wheel driven by engine oil pressure.
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Yes my friend I'm crazy. If someone that could do the impossible what would the turbo worth? Please keep bashing me cause I'm loving it.
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I'm not saying that you would get full boost 31lb at 3200 rpm but there's a way to make it spool faster than a ball bearing. All I want to know if there's a turbo that does spool 1lb. at idle and spool alot faster than a ballbearing what do you think it's worth? I can't get into the details but all I want to know if it'e worth an investment.
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i remember hearing about a turbo that had an accessory clutch that was belt driven off idle to help spool it up and give better low end response, once the engine RPMs started to kick up the clutch is released to let the exhaust kick in.
no idea if what you are implying is related to this idea but i would like to hear this radical idea.. i do hope you realize you open yourself to serious ridicule here though.
no idea if what you are implying is related to this idea but i would like to hear this radical idea.. i do hope you realize you open yourself to serious ridicule here though.
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Originally Posted by jamespond24
I'm not saying that you would get full boost 31lb at 3200 rpm but there's a way to make it spool faster than a ball bearing. All I want to know if there's a turbo that does spool 1lb. at idle and spool alot faster than a ballbearing what do you think it's worth? I can't get into the details but all I want to know if it'e worth an investment.
That would probably make fullboost at idle! and then die in its **** by 200rpm off idle
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James isn't pulling your leg guys. We are currently developing a turbo with these qualities for the Rx7 specifically. We are working with a company who has over 25 years of turbo manufacturing and repair experience. The turbos when in moderate sizes will have no lag at all and will hold a small amount of boost at idle and will reach higher levels of boost almost instantly.
I already have seen the development of these turbos for H-D motorcycles, and the end result of a well tuned machine with this setup. Stay tuned to development for Rx-7's. James is prototyping one for later release!
I'm sorry I can't go into details on how this is possible, but the technology isn't patented yet.
Josh
I already have seen the development of these turbos for H-D motorcycles, and the end result of a well tuned machine with this setup. Stay tuned to development for Rx-7's. James is prototyping one for later release!
I'm sorry I can't go into details on how this is possible, but the technology isn't patented yet.
Josh
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Originally Posted by Karack
i remember hearing about a turbo that had an accessory clutch that was belt driven off idle to help spool it up and give better low end response, once the engine RPMs started to kick up the clutch is released to let the exhaust kick in.
no idea if what you are implying is related to this idea but i would like to hear this radical idea.. i do hope you realize you open yourself to serious ridicule here though.
no idea if what you are implying is related to this idea but i would like to hear this radical idea.. i do hope you realize you open yourself to serious ridicule here though.
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Originally Posted by coxxoc
The turbos when in moderate sizes will have no lag at all and will hold a small amount of boost at idle and will reach higher levels of boost almost instantly.
Originally Posted by jamespond24
I was wondering how much would you paid for a turbo that spool faster than a ball bearing turbo and it boost 1 lb. at idle? I think it spool 2k-3k rpm faster than ball bearing turbo. Please let me know what think?
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Well then you need to contact SAE and NASA, because currently ALL FREE TURBINES LAG.
I'm loving it so keep the bashing coming.
Sorry, I spent all of my money on college where I learned about things like inertia. However, I wish you the best of luck with your scam.
I'm loving it so keep the bashing coming.
Sorry, I spent all of my money on college where I learned about things like inertia. However, I wish you the best of luck with your scam.
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Well then you need to contact SAE and NASA, because currently ALL FREE TURBINES LAG.
Sorry, I spent all of my money on college where I learned about things like inertia. However, I wish you the best of luck with your scam.
Sorry, I spent all of my money on college where I learned about things like inertia. However, I wish you the best of luck with your scam.
James and i have talked about this for awhile and told me how it works. is this the impossible?not from the details he has told me! this will be badd *** turbo and like he said very simple .please dont pm me about this for i gave my word not to talk about this and i refuse to. for you mr. Evil Aviator try to open you mind alittle bit and not be so fast to put your own head up your own *** you asure you it smells like ****! james is a very reputable person here. trust what he is saying guys. james THE answer your question same answer i said before a **** load of money!!!!!
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Here is video proof of a vehicle that this system has been equipped on:
http://myweb.cableone.net/joshcox86/...rbocharger.mpg
This is on a Dodge ram dually. Notice the boost when it is idling. 3-4lbs sound good when your normally in vacuum? Mash it, and within a very short time it is over 30lbs of boost They feel a lot like a supercharger, but without the disadvantages.
I completely understand being weary of the promises of this turbo. I know when I was first approached, it thought it was impossible. I'm a believer now and James and I are ready to put in some time to develop the perfect setup for Rx-7's with the inventor. After Rx-7's our next stop is Supra.
For the person with the NASA comment. This turbo is currently being evaluated by the US Army for use on their vehicles. It really is amazing. I am confident this will bring a new era in turbo performance.
We just need to know market interest so that we can properly invest in this project.
http://myweb.cableone.net/joshcox86/...rbocharger.mpg
This is on a Dodge ram dually. Notice the boost when it is idling. 3-4lbs sound good when your normally in vacuum? Mash it, and within a very short time it is over 30lbs of boost They feel a lot like a supercharger, but without the disadvantages.
I completely understand being weary of the promises of this turbo. I know when I was first approached, it thought it was impossible. I'm a believer now and James and I are ready to put in some time to develop the perfect setup for Rx-7's with the inventor. After Rx-7's our next stop is Supra.
For the person with the NASA comment. This turbo is currently being evaluated by the US Army for use on their vehicles. It really is amazing. I am confident this will bring a new era in turbo performance.
We just need to know market interest so that we can properly invest in this project.
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Originally Posted by coxxoc
Here is video proof of a vehicle that this system has been equipped on:
http://myweb.cableone.net/joshcox86/...rbocharger.mpg
This is on a Dodge ram dually. Notice the boost when it is idling. 3-4lbs sound good when your normally in vacuum? Mash it, and within a very short time it is over 30lbs of boost They feel a lot like a supercharger, but without the disadvantages.
I completely understand being weary of the promises of this turbo. I know when I was first approached, it thought it was impossible. I'm a believer now and James and I are ready to put in some time to develop the perfect setup for Rx-7's with the inventor. After Rx-7's our next stop is Supra.
For the person with the NASA comment. This turbo is currently being evaluated by the US Army for use on their vehicles. It really is amazing. I am confident this will bring a new era in turbo performance.
We just need to know market interest so that we can properly invest in this project.
http://myweb.cableone.net/joshcox86/...rbocharger.mpg
This is on a Dodge ram dually. Notice the boost when it is idling. 3-4lbs sound good when your normally in vacuum? Mash it, and within a very short time it is over 30lbs of boost They feel a lot like a supercharger, but without the disadvantages.
I completely understand being weary of the promises of this turbo. I know when I was first approached, it thought it was impossible. I'm a believer now and James and I are ready to put in some time to develop the perfect setup for Rx-7's with the inventor. After Rx-7's our next stop is Supra.
For the person with the NASA comment. This turbo is currently being evaluated by the US Army for use on their vehicles. It really is amazing. I am confident this will bring a new era in turbo performance.
We just need to know market interest so that we can properly invest in this project.
well josh thats badd ***!! have you got a new clutch for the hd yet lol
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This is not really new technology, if its what I think it is. It has been in use for quite some time, on diesels and porsche's. There have also been numerous threads on variable geometry turbos.
However, that would be B.A. if there was one that was made affordable (I.E. $1500-ish), and also properly sized for our engines.
However, that would be B.A. if there was one that was made affordable (I.E. $1500-ish), and also properly sized for our engines.
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if it'll be a very simple turbo swap without reworking all the plumbing, i'll pay double the amount of a comparable bb turbo--2-3k extra. but if you have this technology, why limit yourself to aftermarket support for rx7's and other street cars? i'd love to see it done, but i don't understand your approach. i'm sure you can make BANK working for professional racing series and bigger trucking corporations. or patent it for bmw, mitsubishi, subaru, etc. who turbo charge some of their high end vehicles.
if it's what you really say it is, i'm sure you don't have to worry about the marketting details. it'll sell itself once proven in the races.
if it has some drawbacks you aren't disclosing at this point, then it's a different story.
evil aviator, while being an ***, does have a point. you can't just make up energy. if it's some sort of supercharger@idle/turbo@load hybrid, my interest would wane depending on the installation complexity and weight being added. if it's variable geometry turbo, good luck getting it to work on a rotary. i mean it sincerely. bottomline is this, if proven in a race (which won't be hard if what yo're saying is 80% true), i'll pay 2-3k extra for it.
if it's what you really say it is, i'm sure you don't have to worry about the marketting details. it'll sell itself once proven in the races.
if it has some drawbacks you aren't disclosing at this point, then it's a different story.
evil aviator, while being an ***, does have a point. you can't just make up energy. if it's some sort of supercharger@idle/turbo@load hybrid, my interest would wane depending on the installation complexity and weight being added. if it's variable geometry turbo, good luck getting it to work on a rotary. i mean it sincerely. bottomline is this, if proven in a race (which won't be hard if what yo're saying is 80% true), i'll pay 2-3k extra for it.
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AHh, yes, the variable vane technology...not that new. TDI jetta's and the diesal trucks like Ford 6.4L use this.
The turbo is worth NOTHING until its proven and reliable....the reason you get flamed is because you pre-maturely started posting about this "reinventing the wheel" turbo when there is no actual product that we know of on a RX7 that has proven track record, and most people like to rebadge technology to fit their own business plan, free enterprise works well doesnt it.
Anyway, start selling us the product with technical and real world information and then you will have some credibility with THIS venture.
The turbo is worth NOTHING until its proven and reliable....the reason you get flamed is because you pre-maturely started posting about this "reinventing the wheel" turbo when there is no actual product that we know of on a RX7 that has proven track record, and most people like to rebadge technology to fit their own business plan, free enterprise works well doesnt it.
Anyway, start selling us the product with technical and real world information and then you will have some credibility with THIS venture.
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