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Old May 12, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Question most boost on pump gas?

Assuming one has enough fuel, how much boost can safley be run on pump gas, say 93-94 octane? I've heard only 15-16 psi, past that you risk detonation. Why would it detonate if you have enough fuel?
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Old May 12, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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It's basically for the same reason you shouldn't run 15-16 PSI on 87 octane.
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Old May 12, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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I have been running 18psi on 93 octane for a long time with no problems. My timing hasn't been retarded to make up for anything and my air/fuel was tuned to 11:5:1 on the dyno.
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Old May 12, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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is 93 octane premium?
what the hell has 87? a voltswagon??
damn that is garbage...
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Old May 12, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by canman6969
is 93 octane premium?
what the hell has 87? a voltswagon??
damn that is garbage...
Yeah, 93 is usually the highest you can get at a gas station here in the U.S. 87 is "regular."
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Old May 12, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by 94touring
I have been running 18psi on 93 octane for a long time with no problems. My timing hasn't been retarded to make up for anything and my air/fuel was tuned to 11:5:1 on the dyno.
I was running 17-18 PSI on 93 for 6 months, but I cracked my rear side housing with 20+ PSI. It was my fault because I added some more mods which raised my boost, but I didn't reprogram my boost controller.
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Old May 12, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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That's good. Crispeed has a few of his customer running 20psi daily. It's not surprising to hear about 7's out there running over 15psi. By the way what EMS are you using and who tuned it?
I have a haltech. I recieved my base map from rotorsports racing, the car it came from was almost identical to mine, except he had a t-78 and I have a apexi rx6. I did the tuning myself at first, then when I took it to rotorsports we did some more fine tuning on the dyno, nothing major just tweaking fuel here and there. I actually had it tuned on the dyno for 15psi, then cranked the boost up later to 18psi. From 15psi to 18psi there is a big difference in power. I was dissapointed in my dyno results, which were 365rwhp and 352rwtq, but i'm sure with the added boost i'm around 400rwhp.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 12:57 AM
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I ran 22psi with Haltech E6K and made 500rwhp on pump fuel
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Old May 13, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by 13BAce
It's basically for the same reason you shouldn't run 15-16 PSI on 87 octane.
I run 15 psi on 89 octane.

BUT I have lower compression rotor and Matt tuned my E6K also.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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How about 91 octane? I'll be moving to CA soon in an area where 91 is normally what you'd find.

how much boost can I run with say a T04E and a goal of 400 WHP? it would have to be tuned more for safety rather than all out power.

any input?

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Old May 13, 2002 | 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by ludeowner
How about 91 octane? I'll be moving to CA soon in an area where 91 is normally what you'd find.
yep it sucks..i havent seen one place that had more than 91 octane
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Yeah, to add to this, how much boost can I run my '89 T2 with stock injectors and an FCD? Safely. And also, what will the max be on 91 Octane gas? What about 87 and 89? Can anyone explain what limits the boost in relation to the octane? Seems to me it would be heat limited (more boost, higher heat) but then wouldn't a different intercooler alter this? Possibly be more like "How much boost can I run on a stock intercooler?" I dunno, I'm just thinking outloud...
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Old May 13, 2002 | 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by BlackDragon
Yeah, to add to this, how much boost can I run my '89 T2 with stock injectors and an FCD? Safely. And also, what will the max be on 91 Octane gas? What about 87 and 89? Can anyone explain what limits the boost in relation to the octane? Seems to me it would be heat limited (more boost, higher heat) but then wouldn't a different intercooler alter this? Possibly be more like "How much boost can I run on a stock intercooler?" I dunno, I'm just thinking outloud...
If you just have an FCD and no other fuel mods then you really shouldn't go over 10 PSI. If you get a good FMIC and some sort of fuel computer then 12-14 PSI should be ok, depending on how good your motor is.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by 13BAce

If you just have an FCD and no other fuel mods then you really shouldn't go over 10 PSI. If you get a good FMIC and some sort of fuel computer then 12-14 PSI should be ok, depending on how good your motor is.
If he ups the power, then the amount of boost he can run will decrease. 2nd Gen injectors are good for about 14psi in standard form. Up the power and it decreases quite rapidly.

Originally posted by wankawankel


Damn! How many times do you attempt to hit full boost? I'm assuming you don't tack out all the time. (bring it to redline at higher speeds).
I don't run 22psi on the street, but am able to run up to 19psi safely. HITman says we could have got 25psi on pump fuel but the likely hood of the engine never idling again were greatly increased

Oh, BTW, we have 98RON pump fuel in Australia
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