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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Ok guys, I had the turbo put on by a shop close to me, which I now work at to pay off work done to the car. The car made a loud screech noise, so the next morning I went into work with my dad and told him about the screeching noise and had my dad there to verify it. I took the mechanic for a test drive so he could hear the noise himself. He heard it, we go back to the shop open the hood. He said it was my downpipe hitting the body. So I continued to drive the car since he assured me it was the downpipe. Yesterday I was checking out my temp gauge, started the car and was hearing something that sounded like a jingle bell in my engine bay. I pinpointed it to be coming from the turbo. Took off the air filter and seen the wheel had scraped the bottom of the housing, also could move the compressor up down left and right. I took off the oil line at the turbo side and it dripped some oil, took it off the motor side and it made a fountain of oil. So the clog is in the line.
Now what depresses me is that I told him about the noise it made and said it was fine, now my center section of the turbo has to be replaced. Is the shop that installed the turbo responsible? Or could it be the oil line manufacture?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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what was clogging up the oil line?

Sounds like you just had shitty luck and something got caught in the oil line and fucked your **** up. sounds like its really nobodys fault.

For safe measure, i'd get one of these too:
https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/turbo-filter-734168/

rebuild your turbo and get a better oil filter!
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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talk to bullseye power turbos about a rebuild
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Brismo7
what was clogging up the oil line?

Sounds like you just had shitty luck and something got caught in the oil line and fucked your **** up. sounds like its really nobodys fault.

For safe measure, i'd get one of these too:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=734168

rebuild your turbo and get a better oil filter!
Yea I agree luck wasn't on my side, yea wasn't sure if it was anyones fault that's why I posted here to see what you guys think.

I haven't tried to clear out the line yet, I do have some wire that will go right through the line and hopefully clear it. I rather not try to get something to filter the oil, I don't wont to hurt flow in anyway and be back where I am now.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1wide7
talk to bullseye power turbos about a rebuild
Dee sold me the turbo I talked to him about it, he said the best thing to do is to get a new center section. So that's what I am going to do, I just got the car running and I just want everything to be 100% fine and running now. This really upsets me and I am greatly depressed due to this, but it's life so whatever. I should have this running by next week, going to buy another feed line for it since I am paranoid bout the one I have now.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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I rather not try to get something to filter the oil, I don't wont to hurt flow in anyway and be back where I am now.
Oh i see, good idea.

tell me something? have you ever fucked up your turbo cuz you got a foreign object stuck the oil line? i bet if you have, a filter for your oil might have prevented it.



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I took off the oil line at the turbo side and it dripped some oil, took it off the motor side and it made a fountain of oil. So the clog is in the line.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brismo7
Oh i see, good idea.

tell me something? have you ever fucked up your turbo cuz you got a foreign object stuck the oil line? i bet if you have, a filter for your oil might have prevented it.





Ok let's say same situation happens again, I have a filter in the line to stop it going into the turbo. A foreign object enters the line, the filter blocks the object from entering the turbo, but now I would have a block all over again due to the filter blocking the object and then cutting off flow again. Do you get what I am saying? Do you have pictures of this filter?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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dude, the peice of debris would be in the oil pan swirling around, not being picked up into the pick up tube because of the filter. You need to change your oil more often man. when was the last time you changed it. HONESTLY. I have a hard time believing your going to answer honestly.

How about this, i havent changed the oil in my eagle in about a lil less than 1k miles past my oil change. roughly 4 thousand miles. i've simply just been toping it off.(it burns a lil bit of oil)

Oil filters dont really change the amount of PSI the pump will make/produce.

Please dont tell me you actually took off your oil filter element inside your oil pan. i'm not sure how you would be able to do this, cuz i thought they were part of the pick up tube.

Also, a MAJOR, yet VERY 'MINOR financial' investment, would be to get a magnetic oil drain plug. This will help grab metal bits floating in your oil.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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I also read through the thread you made, there wasn't any direction of one being made or someone already doing it. I just had bad luck with this line, the clog had to already be in the line, it didn't make it to the turbo, so could be a defective line I don't know. I am defiantly ordering a new line, since I want nothing to do with the current line I have now.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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dude, the peice of debris would be in the oil pan swirling around, not being picked up into the pick up tube because of the filter. You need to change your oil more often man. when was the last time you changed it. HONESTLY. I have a hard time believing your going to answer honestly.

How about this, i havent changed the oil in my eagle in about a lil less than 1k miles past my oil change. roughly 4 thousand miles. i've simply just been toping it off.(it burns a lil bit of oil)

Oil filters dont really change the amount of PSI the pump will make/produce.

Please dont tell me you actually took off your oil filter element inside your oil pan. i'm not sure how you would be able to do this, cuz i thought they were part of the pick up tube.

Also, a MAJOR, yet VERY 'MINOR financial' investment, would be to get a magnetic oil drain plug. This will help grab metal bits floating in your oil.
The engine is a new rebuild from JPR, the oil in it has 150 miles on it. That's why I believe the line is defective. I do have a magnetic oil drain plug, the motor was built by Jim at JPR.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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If the clog came from the oil pan and somehow made it through the pick up tube I highly doubt it would of made it through the oil feed fitting on the motor.

Here's the fitting I have on the motor.

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/oil%20inlet.htm

Like you said I just had bad luck, sucks that it happened but oh well.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by skir2222
If the clog came from the oil pan and somehow made it through the pick up tube I highly doubt it would of made it through the oil feed fitting on the motor.

Here's the fitting I have on the motor.

http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/oil%20inlet.htm

Like you said I just had bad luck, sucks that it happened but oh well.
I'm not sure on this and by all means I may be wrong but isnt that a restrictor? Is your R85 BB?????
I think you had little oil in it, got it hot and whatever little oil there was clogged the restrictor "fitting" and finished off the job.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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R85 is not BB, the oil fitting flows perfect. I looked at the line tonight with a piece of wire. My assumption of the line being defective was right, where they crimped the fitting of the line totally cut off flow. So nothing came from the motor, it was the line. I do have the company's name that made the line, should I contact them about this?
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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the R85s are very cheap to rebuild or replace...thats what makes them nice
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by allrotor93
the R85s are very cheap to rebuild or replace...thats what makes them nice
Yes I agree, sucks when a company makes a shitty oil line though and kills it when you just get it running after 7 months of the car being down.
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if it makes you feel any better, my car has been down for 1.7 years.

I've driven it for a collective of about 4 minutes. and the last trip was about 3 or so minutes to shop down the street to have a couple things done.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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if it makes you feel any better, my car has been down for 1.7 years.

I've driven it for a collective of about 4 minutes. and the last trip was about 3 or so minutes to shop down the street to have a couple things done.
Yea it suck's hate **** like this...

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Who made the oil line?

Also, who made the incorrect call about the downpipe hitting the firewall? Not sure how you could mistake a turbo's death whine for that.

Shitty situation, I feel for ya

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Who made the oil line?

Also, who made the incorrect call about the downpipe hitting the firewall? Not sure how you could mistake a turbo's death whine for that.

Shitty situation, I feel for ya
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230191929639

Thats where I got the line from, they are a power seller and have a ebay store.

On the end where there's the 90º angle and it meets to the SS line where it's crimped is where the wire stops when I try and push it through.

The shop I work at here made the incorrect call about it, he heard the noise and everything.

I told the guy at the shop bout what happened, he said oh ****, what you going to do now? Also told me he breathed through the line and said it was fine. Now if he did that how come I can't push a wire through this spot, if I insert the wire at the other end, I can go all the way through but then when it hits that spot it stops again. I can pull a little bit of air through the line, but when I insert the wire its like it hits a dead stop! What you think Rich?

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Well, the oil flows through with quite a bit of pressure. have you tried to run compressed air through at about 75-100 psi to see if there seems to be a blockage in that scenario?
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Well, the oil flows through with quite a bit of pressure. have you tried to run compressed air through at about 75-100 psi to see if there seems to be a blockage in that scenario?
I cut off the end where there is blockage at, cut it up to the metal part where the ss line goes into it. Looks like its totally blocked off where they tried to seal the line in there. I have a super sharp close pin and I cant even push that through.
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so its completely sealed right there? Sounds like the guys who made your oil line owes you a turbo rebuild. GL with it
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so its completely sealed right there? Sounds like the guys who made your oil line owes you a turbo rebuild. GL with it
Damn bro, thats messed up...

You said it, BAD LUCK all around...I really hope you get this resoved without too much hassle.
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I really doubt that the company will buy you a new turbo or rebuild it. I'd ask them to refund your money and give you a correct line for your trouble. Send the turbo to Bullseye for a rebuild and compressor upgrade.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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why shouldnt/wouldnt they? send them the fucked up line they made but keep lots of photographic evidence. and if they still dont do anything, report them to the BBB, post up on here in the good guy/bad guy section. and make sure to send them links to this and the good/bad guy section threads. and even possibly take them to small claims court if they blow you off.

That is, if it really was their fault on the oil line. I dont care how "cheap" it is to rebuild a specific model turbine. it has less than 150 miles on it. it shouldnt need a rebuild. its like me buying a clutch and having it **** up after 150 miles, a clutch is not that expensive, but the time the car is down, and the cost of redoing it all after a measly 150 miles is bullshit.

like i said, inspect the part very intensively, and if its really a manufacturing defect, then ask them to shell out the dough for atleast a turbo rebuild and a new line. If they have any kind of reputable customer service, this really shouldnt be a problem. especially if the great thing about your turbo is that its cheap to rebuild.
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