tzbfwt

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after a little wb searching, it looks like XS Power and SS Autochrome are either the SAME company - or are closely related - they link websites to each other - and both are in North Car - CREEDSVILLE?

after looking at the ebay pics again - I wonder how you attach the downpipe to the turbine outlet - there appears to be NO FLANGE - do you have to weld on your own?? Welding on cast iron - that looks like fun...

And the pics of the compressor cracked in half - there are some indications - on the honda civic board I think - that this was a hoax - it sure looks like a demo unit that was glued back together. also threads that claim that SS now uses Brazilian made turbos - not Chinese? turbos

who knows? still waiting for good or bad stories about a third gen install on one of these $695 wonders...

MARTIN

xs power is the same as ssautochrome..... anyways... when I took apart the turbo, it looked like low quality parts were used... it wasnt like the fins on any other brand name turbo I've seen. Anyways I decided not to mount it, since it had a t3 flange. I got a t04 instead....

oakridgerx7

just an update for those who want to know. Im having davinci motorworks make my downpipe, and they are gonna send me a v band weld flange for the turbo exhaust housing. I should have the parts by the first of next week, so I will be putting this kit on in the next month or so. Im going with the Apexi FMIC instead of the PFS SMIC. Im gonna have someone local fab up the intake intercooler pipes. BTW the downipie with weld flange, and v band clamp is gonna be $290 shipped.

tzbfwt

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hey - thanks for the update.

So - you have to weld a v-band flange to the cast iron turbine housing? From what little I know about welding, I think you really need someone who knows what they're doing - heat the housing in an oven - and weld it/shot peen it while it's still red hot - hope it works out.

Can you give me any info on the turbo itself? Does it say Master Power on it anywhere? Or made in Taiwan/China? Have you bolted it up yet to see if the turbo will clear the lower inlet? It is water and oil cooled, right? I assume it's not a ball bearing unit?

thanks for any info

Jim

oakridgerx7

this guy is gonna do my welding, and intercooler piping
http://home.comcast.net/~engloid/workpics/workpics.html

the turbo is oil cooled only. the turbine housing says XS-power on it.

tzbfwt

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well - if he can weld a nuclear sub together, I guess he can handle your turbo flange...

kenn_chan

I weld stuff all the time, mig, arc, and gas and those are some of the best welds I have seen in a long time, I don't think I would worry about the cast iron, if he can weld monel to military specs the cast iron won't be a problem (monel cracks very easy if you screw it up)

PhatManBUD

The manifold fits on perfectly. i just drilled out the predrilled threads on the manifold to make it easier with just nuts and bolts instead of just bolts that would have a hard time screwin in.

also that manifold is strong, i took it to a buddys shop and he says the welds look great and reinforcing it isnt necessary at all.

I put the whole setup together and it looks good to me. Even took the turbo apart and it looks like good quality. The compressor spins freely, and no play. I need a v-clamp welded on the back too with a downpipe, hey oakridge maybe we can get the same one.

now the only thing im worried about is if this turbo can hang with 13-14 psi.
Also the only thing im worried about, would be the wastegate.

modrx7

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So your worried about two things?

PhatManBUD

oops. sorry, haha, hate it when i type before i think, well my main concern would be the wastegate

i say that about the turbo but really 14 psi doesnt seem like much for it, and its not like im pushing that on a daily basis.

let me finish the install, get the powerfc tuned, and ill let you guys know how it is

djseven

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Did you get the new injectors yet? Also I dont think I have the the 850 rails at my house. I looked and didnt see them. You can look tomorrow night if you come out to the house. Looks like everyone wants to see what is going to happen with this turbo so hurry up and get this **** done. Plus I need your stock twins.

AImec Racing

To be honest, I wouldn't have installed the kit after reading all this thread!!!

But to give you all a REAL FEEDBACK, My car has currently one installed (about six months from now) 300 rwhp @ 10psi... 3rd Gen 94 FD ,,, I'm a HEAVY FOOTER!

HKS Style Manifold
T70 Turbo
50mm HKS Style WG

The Turbo is installed with a "tangential" T3-T4 adapter to fit the manifold inlet.

The manifold and wastegate are fine, no cracks no stucks so far... The Turbo pulls like a MF! at 10 psi with virtually no lag ... I hit full boost at 3500 rpm, however, I went to dyno last Sat to hit serious hp (20 psi) and the turbo oil seals went out trying to get 15 psi ...

Finally, I'm very happy on the way the turbo perform, but if is not going to last it may be better to go another way. Actually, the turbo was the first ones they sold "Master Power". Now they are selling XS Power. I read the Master Power were the same XS turbos but that they were just using the MP housings...(I don't know)

Anyways, I have another XS Turbo here so I'll try it. I will install it today and dyno on thursday

hopefully my feed back will help to clear this out,,, I will keep you informed...

PhatManBUD

hey for that 50 mm wastegate, which spring should i use for 13-14 psi?

AImec Racing

The one that comes w/it. Colorless (metal itself)...

PhatManBUD

well it came with about 6 differnet springs. all different colors. there is one that is silver. it might be metal. theres one that is yellow, darker yellow, brown, black, silver, and white

FD Rey

How much is "serious hp" at 20 psi? I'm just wondering what these turbos are are really made out of. Your feedback is much appreciated. I'm having similar issues with my turbo now (Garrett 60-1) where my oil seals are going out and it smokes after I boost and let off the gass. Please post up an update when you do the switch.

vintagespeed

Do you have some pics of the turbo apart?

-jb

PhatManBUD

no i dont but i have a pic of the whole setup put together before i get the downpipe and put it into the car

Rx7pimpin

post the one you have.

PhatManBUD

alrighty, wait for me to get home. ill take a close up pix of the welds too.

AImec Racing

Well, my friend's FD with similar settings put 419 rwhp @ 19 psi on dyno. It's a circuit race car 12 hours track/day so I'm planing to go for 24 psi ... I'm drag just 10-11 seconds . Should be something around 450-475 rwhp.

My turbo had ecxactly the same problem and the problem is the front seal. While opening both Turbos (MP & XS) I noticed that the construction quality of the MP looks better (housings, backplate)... and decided to fix the MP turbo with the XS internals from the one I have but is definitlly NOT the same turbo. They have the same A/R ratios and compressor(193)/turbine wheels and shaft but the housings are not the same. The XS are a bit larger and has V-band outlet. The backplate of the MP is bolted while XS is just fitted.

I'll try first to fix the MP ... I was told that the MP has the same CHRA of a Turbonetics 60-1. I'll buy the parts and let you informed. If I can't fix the MP then I'll try the XS ...

BTW
I have another frined with an XS in his 94 Supra, so far so good at 10 psi. He's wating for computer to increase hp...

Rx7pimpin

What's up with the pic?

vintagespeed

Was the XS glued and tack welded together? I've been told that knock-offs can't possibly make the hp numbers you've reported, everyone else must be right.

Thanks for bringing some reality into everyone else's banter.

-jb

PhatManBUD

oh sorry to lag on the pix

Rx7pimpin

Let us know how it goes. What's the ETA to have it up and running?