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Old 11-25-03, 07:34 PM
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Going single,should I port the motor too?

After two years of beating the car the coolant seals are letting go soo I,m pulling the motor and relacing it.
Tearing a stock reman apart and upgrading the rotor housings comes in at $2400 (I guess I could always port it myself while I,m in there)
a Pineapple with a raceport comes in at 4k,with oil mods,so a difference of $1600.
Is it worth it?
I dunno if were talking 30 hp difference here? and a smidge of reliability?With any luck $1600 will be $2600 after interest and a fresh motor again.
The car is a weekend warrior that will track,when it does,nt overheat turbo will probably be GT 35/40 T04S or ? aiming for 430 range to the tire with 15 ibs
Any comments ideas please,thanks.
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Porting does not only gives hp's but also spools the turbo faster since you have more intake/exhaust flow.
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I say for your setup, its not needed. I ran 10's consistantly on a stock reman with no problems at all.
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Must be the new math? ...You rebuilding it yourself?

Reman $2400+2 new rotor housings ($500x2) + porting $350+$1,000 to tear down and rebuild reman = $4750! + seals, gaskets, etc >$5k.

The Pineapple engine with those mod's will be over $5k and to "assume" a price without knowing what needs to be replaced is . Unless you are given a flat rate, you can only be quoted a best scenerio and worst scenerio price ...maybe an average but that's not realistic. (not trying to sound rude )

Btw: you may want to look at the new GT-40R (ball bearing) by Aspec tuning.

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well, as he stated, the $2400 includes the new housings, and he's doing the work himself, pulling and reinstalling. so:
$2700 -reman (w/new housings)
$400 - porting
$375 -oil mods stage 3
$400 -other misc items (gaskets, mounts, ect)
$3875
i just got my motor back from pineapple with a "road race" port, which is different than the "race" port (dont confuse the two), stage 3 oil mods, new water seals, and all new housings. and i paid less than $4k. his 6year warranty motors are $2700 though, not $2400. doing the labor saves a bunch. i cant remember my exact total, but it wasn't over $4k, let alone $5k.
just my .02
hey go racer, whats with the titanium tl and ta group buy?
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very impressive numbers on a stock reman,who built your motor?

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remans from Ray at Malloy Mazda run just under 2k,midwest dicount price!


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for your $3900,race port motor,does Rob upgrade the coolant seals as well?

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Originally posted by mp5
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very impressive numbers on a stock reman,who built your motor?
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Nobody, it was a bone stock reman......I've since sold the car and bought another 3rd genn with intentions of having a 9sec. street car. Demetrios K. (Reactive Racing) and I will be building it togeather. He will be doing the porting and building of the motor as well as all the tuning. He did my tuning last year when I ran 10's on the reman. He's one of the best tuners I know of. I don't know of many people that made 762rwhp at only 34lbs of boost on a 13B!
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Mp5 > Well my reman last maybe 29k mi and I milked another 5k mi before the clutch was completely gone. My Mazdatrix rebuild is just under $4k (with cash discount). $4k for a Pineapple w/mods is a good price also.

Paximus > I have someone that is going to make me the toe link and trailing arms in titanium but since I have no engine and no air tools, I haven't been able to give him my M2 sets for measurements. The ends will be high grade aircraft quality (not cheapy like the M2's) and pure titanium (not cheap mix).
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mp5- i couldn't tell ya right now. but i'm pretty sure he did/does.

goracer- how much for these things?

erniet- great numbers, i've been an admirer for a while. and i had to laugh when you said "only 34lbs of boost" most of us are lucky to see 12, let alone tripling that

my port is a little different than all the big boys race ports, its technically called a "road race" port. designed for.....well, road racing. its not huge for top end like his race ports, more for mid to high rpm range. i'll be posting a thread after it hits the dyno (still breaking it in) on the 8th of dec. we're all curious about the numbers as i have a custom turbo from a-spec as well. should spool like a ***** and carve the twisties through the mountains like crazy....time to get those big brakes, its the way down that gets a little scary...lol
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Originally posted by ErnieT
Nobody, it was a bone stock reman......
when i read the question, i couldnt wait to see your reply. you actualy went easy on him. LMFAO
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Silly me!
My bone stock reman still runs good too,but does,nt hold coolant for very long under constant boost.Is that my fault and not the engine builders, probably, but I would prefer the best rebuilder this time.

Pineapple is probably my pick right now.
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762 rwhp! Thats one Bad *** FD! wow
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