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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Fuel kit Opinion

I was thinking about getting this...

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https://www.rhdjapan.com/jdm/SARD-Al...-13B-REW-25594
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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how much is it?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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$ 415
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:51 AM
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why bother with the jdm stuff...you'll get little support here, get something that you know will work and you know where you can find support...like KG parts kit or rx7.com kit, you still need injectors, resistors, FPR, ss lines with that kit, it isn't going to be any cheaper in the end
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scrubolio
why bother with the jdm stuff...you'll get little support here, get something that you know will work and you know where you can find support...like KG parts kit or rx7.com kit, you still need injectors, resistors, FPR, ss lines with that kit, it isn't going to be any cheaper in the end
True..

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scrubolio
why bother with the jdm stuff...you'll get little support here, get something that you know will work and you know where you can find support...like KG parts kit or rx7.com kit, you still need injectors, resistors, FPR, ss lines with that kit, it isn't going to be any cheaper in the end
Support?
For what?

It's $799 for this...
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/ultimatefuel.htm
Minus the fuel injectors ($50 / each) and the FPR (~$200) and the AN hose, the price is going to very close, or the SARD system is going to actually come out cheaper...

The KG **** is NOT cheap.

I can't find anything on the RX7.COM site...
http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdfuel.html
Their secondary "kit" is $598, and that includes fuel injectors and fuel pump.
Minus $200 for the fuel pump and minus $100 for the fuel injectors, we're talking about ~$300 just for the rail!
The fittings look like BARBED fittings - at least the SARD set-up is AN fittings and adapters.
$300 for just one fuel rail!
For a little over $100, SARD offers you the primary fuel rail also!
Remember, we're talking about replacing both fuel rails...not just the secondary.

Still think it's cheaper to buy in the US?
I think you're just anti-JDM and never looked into all the details...
That SARD set-up is actually looking pretty good at this point.


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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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It looks pretty sweet to me. Looks like really good quality from the pics. Looks better than the rx7.com kit. If i seen this before i probably would have bought it instead.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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If a few extra bucks isn't a big deal you can't beat the quality of the cj motorsports kit. Billet ftmfw


cj kit retail.................725
84lb inj......................125
160lb inj....................180
nd supra pump..........180
fjo inj driver...............200
1410 for a top notch fuel system
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Still prefer the sard kit..personal preference
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Support?
For what?

It's $799 for this...
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/ultimatefuel.htm
Minus the fuel injectors ($50 / each) and the FPR (~$200) and the AN hose, the price is going to very close, or the SARD system is going to actually come out cheaper...

The KG **** is NOT cheap.

I can't find anything on the RX7.COM site...
http://www.rx7.com/store/rx7/fdfuel.html
Their secondary "kit" is $598, and that includes fuel injectors and fuel pump.
Minus $200 for the fuel pump and minus $100 for the fuel injectors, we're talking about ~$300 just for the rail!
The fittings look like BARBED fittings - at least the SARD set-up is AN fittings and adapters.
$300 for just one fuel rail!
For a little over $100, SARD offers you the primary fuel rail also!
Remember, we're talking about replacing both fuel rails...not just the secondary.

Still think it's cheaper to buy in the US?
I think you're just anti-JDM and never looked into all the details...
That SARD set-up is actually looking pretty good at this point.


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Ted,
There is a big difference in price between the sard and our kit. You pointed to our ultimate kit which also come with primary rail, injectors etc.
The more comparable kit is our extreme kit which is $580 for everything.

If you get the Sard kit for $415 and then purchase everything else needed to run that setup you are over $800 for the same setup that we sell for $580.
If you add Sards primary rail for $100 and then all the extras to get that going its over $1k.

The Sard kit looks nice but in the end its going to cost a lot more.

Jason
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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I just bought the cj motorsports kit I haven't installed it yet but I am very pleased with the quality of it.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Ted,
There is a big difference in price between the sard and our kit. You pointed to our ultimate kit which also come with primary rail, injectors etc.
The more comparable kit is our extreme kit which is $580 for everything.

If you get the Sard kit for $415 and then purchase everything else needed to run that setup you are over $800 for the same setup that we sell for $580.
You mean this thing?
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/extremefuelfd.htm

That kit looks like it's only for the secondary.

The SARD kit replaces both the secondary and the primary.

Your primary rail is $90.
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/primaryrail.htm
It doesn't look like it has any fittings included?
Even so...take your Extreme kit for $580, minus $200 for FPR minus $100 for fuel injectors = $280.
Then add the $90 for the primary fuel rail, $280 + $90 = $370.
It comes close to the SARD kit is priced at.

What the SARD kit include which almost none of the other kits do, is the inclusion of the block off plates.
I dunno how much a set of FD3S block off plates go for, but I'm sure it's going to get close to the $45 difference right there...
You sell your block-off plate kit here at $65.
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/block%20plates.htm
Granted, the SARD pieces is not as complete as yours, but the kit prices are going to come out to be just about identical when you do all the nitty gritty math.

My point was a counter to the guy who said that this SARD kit was expensive...
It turns out it's not.


If you add Sards primary rail for $100 and then all the extras to get that going its over $1k.

The Sard kit looks nice but in the end its going to cost a lot more.
No, you don't need to add the primary fuel rail.
The primary fuel rail is included in the SARD kit for $415.


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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Sorry I didnt see the primary rail in there.

If he wanted to use that kit and by the extra parts to get it running you will spend $1080 in total.

extra parts needed are 4 injectors, Fuel Pressure Regulator + Gauge, 4 resistors, 4 LIM spacers, 4 injector clips, and about $50 in fittings and fuel line.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Now thats puuuuuuurty. It brings back sad memories. Ill be having another CJ kit here soon shortly but with a little bit of modifications

Originally Posted by vtec187
If a few extra bucks isn't a big deal you can't beat the quality of the cj motorsports kit. Billet ftmfw


cj kit retail.................725
84lb inj......................125
160lb inj....................180
nd supra pump..........180
fjo inj driver...............200
1410 for a top notch fuel system
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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What's up with the injector placement in Sard's secondary rail? It looks like it's drilled to fit the primaries.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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That is nice.. i think i might get that.


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cj kit retail.................725
84lb inj......................125
160lb inj....................180
nd supra pump..........180
fjo inj driver...............200
1410 for a top notch fuel system[/QUOTE]
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NewbernD
What's up with the injector placement in Sard's secondary rail? It looks like it's drilled to fit the primaries.
I saw it and was wondering the same thing..i assume theres a bracket to bolts up to that and to the LIM
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Was watcihing this vid from another Thread about the T51R and saw it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I594HQCHgHc

Go to 3:53 play time and you will see how its set up
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by matt g
That is nice.. i think i might get that.


thanks





cj kit retail.................725
84lb inj......................125
160lb inj....................180
nd supra pump..........180
fjo inj driver...............200
1410 for a top notch fuel system
[/QUOTE]

What injectors will work with this kit?

thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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What injectors will work with this kit?

thanks[/QUOTE]



Bosch style top feeds. The hight of the rail can be adjusted if need be. Standerd hight is fixed.

~Brandon
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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