The end-all debate on XS Power turbos, who has actually ran them?
03-19-05, 12:14 PM
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The end-all debate on XS Power turbos, who has actually ran them?
Who has actually ran these turbos and what were the results? I don't want to hear "Those are junk" just because someone heard from someone else who assumed they were junk because of this price, i want actual results. I have seen the one case of the compressor breaking apart which is probably a freak incident, i have heard of another guy running one and boosting fine, but taking it off because it "Made funny noises, but didn't have shaft play and spun fine", i've heard numberous stories of "This has turbo has been on my car 6 months with no issues" or "This turbo has been on a friend of mine's car for 1 year with no problems". I hardly hear of any failures from people actually running this turbo.
03-19-05, 07:22 PM
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your best bet is to buy one yourself as it seems you already are convinced that there are a great product.. these grey branded parts off ebay destroy innovation in this industry. These ebay tuner shops sell these turbos/products with many different names so it will be tough to get a good overall opinion on these turbos.
on a personal note i wouldnt want to put "ebay" or other grey branded parts on my car. I think cars are worth even less if you ever try to sell your car to fellow enthusiast or if someone takes pics of your car for a magazine..
on a personal note i wouldnt want to put "ebay" or other grey branded parts on my car. I think cars are worth even less if you ever try to sell your car to fellow enthusiast or if someone takes pics of your car for a magazine..
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03-19-05, 08:29 PM
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I'm certainly not convinced they're a great product, a brand new turbo for $200 should give that away, but i'm curious if they're as bad as people say.
03-19-05, 08:49 PM
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a turbo's, a turbo right???? WRONG. . . ever wonder why it takes more money than 200 bones to REBUILD a single turbo? something smells fishy about stuff that doesnt have a price that adds up. i tend to stay away from ALL things that have an abundance of that "fish" smell. . . and i suggest everyone else does too. 
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03-19-05, 08:52 PM
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I'm kinda with you on this one...its really hard to tell whats good and whats not since there is so much BS on this forum. Maybe the turbos are good and maybe not. I honestly believe 99% of the people who say any of these products are crap are full of crap themselves. They have zero experience with any of the products. They haven't spoken with experinced people or read of any real life experiences with these products. One guy sees the price and that a million of these things are being offered for very little cost, assumes they are crap, posts they are crap, and guess what...now according to this board they are crap. I use a few of these so called crap products on my car...guess what??? They work fine.
03-19-05, 09:18 PM
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Are we talking about the XS engenering kits? If so a post I saw said the turbo blew a seal on the first pull, the downpipe had two holes in it, and the wastegate blew up. Called XS and they wanted $1000 to fix the turbo..
03-19-05, 10:41 PM
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haha ok so one pull and both the turbo and wastegate failed? The wastegate blew up? What does that mean? Were they made of dirt or something? I find this hard to believe also. The down pipe had 2 holes in it? As in a wideband O2 and the regular O2? BTW we are not talking about xs engineering anyway.
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03-20-05, 03:50 AM
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Holy ****. I just don't get this. 200$ for a turbo = crap. Theres nothing more to discuss, we've all seen the pictures of the split compressor housing have we not?
If these turbos were 600$ a piece, then I could find this thread necessary. But 200$ will not get yourself well machined parts to construct a turbo. simple.
It really doesn't take much more than an APE to figure this out.
And you don't even have to give him bananas to have him figure that out!
If these turbos were 600$ a piece, then I could find this thread necessary. But 200$ will not get yourself well machined parts to construct a turbo. simple.
It really doesn't take much more than an APE to figure this out.
And you don't even have to give him bananas to have him figure that out!
03-20-05, 05:31 PM
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eh.. reading this again, I see he wants to know about how good the performance is, not how good the turbo's are actually made.
Im sure they perform decently well IMO, its just reliability thats known to be ****.
Im sure they perform decently well IMO, its just reliability thats known to be ****.
03-22-05, 09:05 PM
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are these the ones SSAUTOCRHOME sells? if so, then that's the guy that is about 20 minutes from me. there are 3 people here that i personally know with kits from this guy. one was on a civic with the stock d16 motor. the kit was actually pretty nice, we added some welds to the manifold but other than that the car is pretty quick for what it is. the other two people tried the rx7 kits and one turbo was taken apart upon reciept just to see how it was, alot of damn blue rtv... wierd i guess, either way they are still boosting with them today. none of these people have been running the xs setups for more than 3 or 4 months so.... longevity? i dunno.
03-23-05, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by FB II
are these the ones SSAUTOCRHOME sells? if so, then that's the guy that is about 20 minutes from me. there are 3 people here that i personally know with kits from this guy. one was on a civic with the stock d16 motor. the kit was actually pretty nice, we added some welds to the manifold but other than that the car is pretty quick for what it is. the other two people tried the rx7 kits and one turbo was taken apart upon reciept just to see how it was, alot of damn blue rtv... wierd i guess, either way they are still boosting with them today. none of these people have been running the xs setups for more than 3 or 4 months so.... longevity? i dunno.
The first post with real results, thank you. See what i mean about these turbos? People say they're absolute junk until someone with first hand experience replies and says they actually work fine.
03-23-05, 11:39 AM
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Why don't you search and read through all the testomonies of people who actually have and used these? You act like no one who actually owned one has posted. Your obviously convinced so buy one and let this thread die. Theres NUMEROUS threads on those turbos and if you READ them, you'll find more people with FAILED turbos then those who have had good luck (even if its 50/50 that is still WAY WAY to high). Ignore the neigh-sayers (SP?), theres PLEANTY of people with real experiance. If you want to read even more (to unconvince your self), go to Honduh, 240sx/silvia, and DSM forums and you'll find even more "real world" experiances and come to the conclusion that buying one of these is a gamble.
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03-23-05, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
Why don't you search and read through all the testomonies of people who actually have and used these? You act like no one who actually owned one has posted. Your obviously convinced so buy one and let this thread die. Theres NUMEROUS threads on those turbos and if you READ them, you'll find more people with FAILED turbos then those who have had good luck (even if its 50/50 that is still WAY WAY to high). Ignore the neigh-sayers (SP?), theres PLEANTY of people with real experiance. If you want to read even more (to unconvince your self), go to Honduh, 240sx/silvia, and DSM forums and you'll find even more "real world" experiances and come to the conclusion that buying one of these is a gamble.
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03-23-05, 07:33 PM
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I am in the process of turboing my fc with one of thoes kist would have beem done last sat but I had a used intercooler I got off of ebay and like a dumbass I droped it and borke a part of it off. so I just ran it to my intake. with a 6 psi wastegate spring only boosting 6 psi will I kill my engine to fast it is only temp. Sorry to get off the beaten path But mine boosts to 6 psi nice.
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Well right now, I have a MAster Power turbo. Not one of those xs turbo, but they still talk alot of **** about it...Anyways, I paid $600 for it and it spins great, spools awesome, and pulls hard *** hell.. I dont know if you are talking about the same type of turbo, but if it is the "MP" turbo that you are talking about, then yea. They perform awesome. I have a few friends with supras that run them and they have lasted for a while..
EDIT* Wait I bought a t70 from ssautochrome, that came with a wastegate and a bov, for $400. I thought it fukin cheap so I bought it. When the turbo arrived, I was extremely dissappointed at the turbo. It looked like a POS. The inlet was a 4" but it norrowed down to like a 1 1/4" hole. Definately not a t70. The wheel hardly spun, and it looked like poor poor construction quality. I never ran the turbo, because of the backside(even though I bought another turbo after I saw the condition) but I wanted to run it to see the capabilities. The fins didnt have straight edges, at all. Im basing my comments on appearance only, and the fact that it took a nice ammount of force to spin the wheel..
EDIT* Wait I bought a t70 from ssautochrome, that came with a wastegate and a bov, for $400. I thought it fukin cheap so I bought it. When the turbo arrived, I was extremely dissappointed at the turbo. It looked like a POS. The inlet was a 4" but it norrowed down to like a 1 1/4" hole. Definately not a t70. The wheel hardly spun, and it looked like poor poor construction quality. I never ran the turbo, because of the backside(even though I bought another turbo after I saw the condition) but I wanted to run it to see the capabilities. The fins didnt have straight edges, at all. Im basing my comments on appearance only, and the fact that it took a nice ammount of force to spin the wheel..
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that should tell you something.
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I have browsed many, many forums, it's almost all people that don't have first hand experience, i was hoping this thread would filter that out and people with experience only would post good or bad.
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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
Aren't you the guy running all this turbo goodness and bolt ons with a stock ems?
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yup, and it works great.. now that I got the msd, it runs like a champ. No more cut at 10psi. The whole problem is that im running extremely rich... Im formating my computer and installing windows again, on the laptop. I had like 40gigs of crap. After im done ill install the haltec in the car...
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