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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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"So can I use the PCV nipple on the filler neck and the factory vent nipple on my middle iron and run them both to a catch?"

perhaps i am misunderstanding you but...

the primary reason that oil catch cans get filled is they are only venting one side of the motor. if you vent both sides then you always have a unobstructed breather and therefore any crankcase pressure is free to vent so nothing will push the oil up and out.

the typical "vented" FD has a breather only on the driver's (left) side. great for left hand turns but worthless for right hand turns.

vent both sides. Mazda was righteous enough to even supply the vent hole for single turbo setups

also, cap the additional vent hole.

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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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RX-Heven, your solution also eliminates the OMP.

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Mine just happened to be eliminated to begin with. It can easily be done without eliminating the OMP and has been done on another car since mine. I have also seen a breather line coming right out the front of the front cover about halfway up.
Venting the other side is especially easy on FD's or Cosmo engines as they can use the rear oil return line on those engines, of course only if they have gone with a single turbo setup.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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No matter how simple the solution really is, people on this forum will continue to make a mountain from a molehill over this simple issue. What doesn't help either is guys who don't track their cars offering solutions to a problem they don't really understand or offer a real fix for.

Sure, they may have solved the problem when encountered on a dyno or doing straight-line pulls but that does not address the entire problem and certainly does not fix the issue under all circumstances.
For people who don't push their cars while cornering this may be fine but otherwise:
Vent the other side of the engine.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxer2rotary
So can I use the PCV nipple on the filler neck and the factory vent nipple on my middle iron and run them both to a catch? Currently the PCV and middle iron nipple are just open.
What is the vent nipple on the middle iron you are referring to? I thought REW engines don't have this? T2 engines do though
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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Some REW's have the vent nipple on the center iron. From what I've seen, it's the early ones.

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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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Okay sounds easy enough. So just tap the block off plate for the rear oil return seem sthe easiest. Is there any way to use the block off plate for the OMP?

Yes the early ones did have a nipple on the middle irons. I questioned it the first time I seen it myself.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Yup, vent both sides of the motor and it works perfect... after about 5 track events on R888's I have only accumulated about 2oz of oil.

I used an adapter similar to pic below for the unused rear oil drain, a 3/8" brass 90 degree barb fitting, 3/8" Goodyear fuel injection hose and a small Jazz catch can pictured below. One side of catch can goes to stock oil filler neck and the other side of the catch can goes to the fitting on the block. DONE!




(hose not connected in yet in this pic...)
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Great , I'll do this immediately ! this thing is driving me nuts !
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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My.02. I actually think the rear turbo return line is a poor choice since all the oil sloshes towards the back under acceleration. Under acceleration your under boost for the most part. When this happens the oil is already filling the rear hole. Then you have the crank case pressure that forces the oil up the line to the catch can. I think if you simply move the turbo return to the rear and use the front return as the vent, you can possibly eliminate any of these filling problems. If oil can't reach a point of entry, it can't fill a line therefore working it's way to the catch can will be a non-issue.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by t-von
My.02. I actually think the rear turbo return line is a poor choice since all the oil sloshes towards the back under acceleration. Under acceleration your under boost for the most part. When this happens the oil is already filling the rear hole. Then you have the crank case pressure that forces the oil up the line to the catch can. I think if you simply move the turbo return to the rear and use the front return as the vent, you can possibly eliminate any of these filling problems. If oil can't reach a point of entry, it can't fill a line therefore working it's way to the catch can will be a non-issue.

With your .02 cents added has anyone tried this method to see if it's worth running a longer drain line?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rawbz08
With your .02 cents added has anyone tried this method to see if it's worth running a longer drain line?
This seems like a great idea but due to the degree of difficulty and the limited space under there , I elected to use the rear port , after some testing I'll decide which I will stay with .
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by t-von
My.02. I actually think the rear turbo return line is a poor choice since all the oil sloshes towards the back under acceleration. Under acceleration your under boost for the most part. When this happens the oil is already filling the rear hole. Then you have the crank case pressure that forces the oil up the line to the catch can. I think if you simply move the turbo return to the rear and use the front return as the vent, you can possibly eliminate any of these filling problems. If oil can't reach a point of entry, it can't fill a line therefore working it's way to the catch can will be a non-issue.
Fellas, don't reinvent the wheel here. Remember this issue is pretty much reserved only for high G-loaded cornering with the OEM style venting system (right turns). Venting to the rear OEM turbo return works perfectly well. Tinker if you must, but a race-demonstrated, working solution has already been engineered and fabricated (See Damian's thread).

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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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Hello all , I completed the install and there is no sign of oil anymore !!! thank you all for the great advice (as ususl!) I am now thinking of placing another vent line on the front cover , any more pics or write up of this mod would be greatly appreciated !!
Thanks again !!
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Old May 1, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Thanks for posting the results.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Burkett
Hello all , I completed the install and there is no sign of oil anymore !!! thank you all for the great advice (as ususl!) I am now thinking of placing another vent line on the front cover , any more pics or write up of this mod would be greatly appreciated !!
Thanks again !!
Hello again , this method of control for oil migration worked really well , but it did not fix the real cause of why there was soo much blow by in the first place. Unfortunately it seems like one of the smaller seals had started to give way , and completely quit last Saturday requireing an engine rebuild.I'll know more after I get it out and open it up , I'll post up what I find.
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