clutch kit?
03-27-10, 10:48 AM
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clutch kit?
I was planning on getting a clutch kit later on when I get my motor done and wanted something to handle about 450 500 hp and that dont slip , I want a good kit something that feels like stock almost?
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03-27-10, 12:35 PM
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so its been 59 min and you think there should be someone here at your beck and call.... really lol its a forum not custome service
multi disk twin plate setups is the only one that will hod and be stock 'feeling' take your pick exedy carbonetics spec yada yada
z
multi disk twin plate setups is the only one that will hod and be stock 'feeling' take your pick exedy carbonetics spec yada yada
z
03-27-10, 08:48 PM
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I drove a 6 puck unsprung extreme ACT for years daily to and from work and everywhere else, I loved it. Why?? Because it felt nothing like stock. It was on or off. I've installed both types on numerous cars and hate to say it but the stage 3+ feels very soft and mushy like a stock oem setup and still holds very well with proper break in.
As far as rating go.
ACT 6puck unsprung is 577ft/lbs.
Spec Stage 3+ 598ft/lbs.
You're misunderstanding something somewhere.
If I have only one complaint about the spec clutches is they seem to be more sensitive to break in than some others we've ran so take your time breaking them in. But that said anytime we get a customer that wants OEM feel Stage 3+ is what we recommend.
~S~
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03-28-10, 08:44 AM
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03-28-10, 09:07 AM
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I run a spec 2+ clutch, drives and feels close to stock and has been holding 400+ for 3 seasons of lapping. I cant remember the tq rating on it but i remember thinking that it would hold to around 500tq.
My experiances with 6 pucks have always been horrible, at the track they were great but for regular driving they made me hate the car.
My experiances with 6 pucks have always been horrible, at the track they were great but for regular driving they made me hate the car.
03-28-10, 09:12 AM
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No disrespect but this is funny.
I drove a 6 puck unsprung extreme ACT for years daily to and from work and everywhere else, I loved it. Why?? Because it felt nothing like stock. It was on or off. I've installed both types on numerous cars and hate to say it but the stage 3+ feels very soft and mushy like a stock oem setup and still holds very well with proper break in.
As far as rating go.
ACT 6puck unsprung is 577ft/lbs.
Spec Stage 3+ 598ft/lbs.
You're misunderstanding something somewhere.
If I have only one complaint about the spec clutches is they seem to be more sensitive to break in than some others we've ran so take your time breaking them in. But that said anytime we get a customer that wants OEM feel Stage 3+ is what we recommend.
~S~
I drove a 6 puck unsprung extreme ACT for years daily to and from work and everywhere else, I loved it. Why?? Because it felt nothing like stock. It was on or off. I've installed both types on numerous cars and hate to say it but the stage 3+ feels very soft and mushy like a stock oem setup and still holds very well with proper break in.
As far as rating go.
ACT 6puck unsprung is 577ft/lbs.
Spec Stage 3+ 598ft/lbs.
You're misunderstanding something somewhere.
If I have only one complaint about the spec clutches is they seem to be more sensitive to break in than some others we've ran so take your time breaking them in. But that said anytime we get a customer that wants OEM feel Stage 3+ is what we recommend.
~S~
I since went to a ACT 6 puck unsprung and love it! 8-9k rpm launches and all is well. I use about a disk a season.
Now on SPEC. I would never support them again after such shitty dealings, however I have read the earlier 3+'s had issues and have resolved them. My guess is mine was one of the first disks they made, maybe before they even realized there was an issue. I bought it around 3 years ago..
ACT all the way!
03-28-10, 10:28 AM
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Sorry Sean, I have to disagree. My SPEC stage 3+ was the biggest POS! It felt very harsh, ate my flywheel and starting slipping on the dyno. I did the proper break in and all was adjusted correctly. Spec did nothing as it was past the 1 year mark, I explained I needed it to send off for balancing with the motor parts and then it was assemble time, then break in time. Anyway I spoke to the main guy there when I purchased it from them explaining what I was doing and since they are local I decided to try the new 3+. I sent detailed pics and measured the wear. It chipped away at the rivet holes and trashed the disk and PP. I will see if I still have any pics.
I since went to a ACT 6 puck unsprung and love it! 8-9k rpm launches and all is well. I use about a disk a season.
Now on SPEC. I would never support them again after such shitty dealings, however I have read the earlier 3+'s had issues and have resolved them. My guess is mine was one of the first disks they made, maybe before they even realized there was an issue. I bought it around 3 years ago..
ACT all the way!
I since went to a ACT 6 puck unsprung and love it! 8-9k rpm launches and all is well. I use about a disk a season.
Now on SPEC. I would never support them again after such shitty dealings, however I have read the earlier 3+'s had issues and have resolved them. My guess is mine was one of the first disks they made, maybe before they even realized there was an issue. I bought it around 3 years ago..
ACT all the way!
I knew you would pop up
I'm not worried about you disagreeing. You are the only one out of I don't know how many who ran the stage 3+ out of our customers who had any issue. You had a bad experience with one clutch, it can happen. I've dealt with both products multiple times. My first clutch was a ACT and failed miserably it can happen. I still use and recommend them as well. As far the the 6 puck unsprung... can any of you people with any serious honesty say that's like stock?? BS on that one. I drove it for years daily. The guy wants a stock feeling clutch. A unsprung puck clutch is not a a stock feeling clutch if it is a 42R spool like twins. ~S~
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03-28-10, 05:32 PM
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ok so back to square 1 , i want the best possiable clutch that can handle the hp with no slippage and something i can use for a daily driver or when i want to jame on it it will work nice ? whats ya got?
03-28-10, 06:04 PM
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Twin discs are nice with a little firmer pedal and they can be noisy as well as pricey, stage 3+ is very stock feeling and once broken in will hold up well. Six puck unsprung is nice if you hate the feel of stock and want your clutch to just grab, most people will hate this clutch in day to day driving as it requires a good foot and will work like a switch to the average guy, they also are much harder on drive train components. Best of both would probably be a six puck sprung hub. Any one of those will work. My favorite choices right now are either ACT 6 puck sprung hub or SPEC minitwin. If close to OEM feel is what you want, spec stage 3plus. PM me your price range and I will walk you through it. On a side note we just installed a textralia clutch in a LS2 car and that thing feels like there is no pedal it's so soft. Not for me thanks!!!
~S~
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03-28-10, 09:37 PM
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No disrespect but this is funny.
I drove a 6 puck unsprung extreme ACT for years daily to and from work and everywhere else, I loved it. Why?? Because it felt nothing like stock. It was on or off. I've installed both types on numerous cars and hate to say it but the stage 3+ feels very soft and mushy like a stock oem setup and still holds very well with proper break in.
As far as rating go.
ACT 6puck unsprung is 577ft/lbs.
Spec Stage 3+ 598ft/lbs.
You're misunderstanding something somewhere.
If I have only one complaint about the spec clutches is they seem to be more sensitive to break in than some others we've ran so take your time breaking them in. But that said anytime we get a customer that wants OEM feel Stage 3+ is what we recommend.
~S~
I drove a 6 puck unsprung extreme ACT for years daily to and from work and everywhere else, I loved it. Why?? Because it felt nothing like stock. It was on or off. I've installed both types on numerous cars and hate to say it but the stage 3+ feels very soft and mushy like a stock oem setup and still holds very well with proper break in.
As far as rating go.
ACT 6puck unsprung is 577ft/lbs.
Spec Stage 3+ 598ft/lbs.
You're misunderstanding something somewhere.
If I have only one complaint about the spec clutches is they seem to be more sensitive to break in than some others we've ran so take your time breaking them in. But that said anytime we get a customer that wants OEM feel Stage 3+ is what we recommend.
~S~
I cant explain it but thats my exprience with both of those clutchs. The spec was harsh as hell and I would stall in parking lots, and it ate my flywheel. With the ACT, its not even close to that bad, YET it holds 500whp fine. That SPEC S3 clutch was a POS.
03-28-10, 09:41 PM
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Sorry Sean, I have to disagree. My SPEC stage 3+ was the biggest POS! It felt very harsh, ate my flywheel and starting slipping on the dyno. I did the proper break in and all was adjusted correctly. Spec did nothing as it was past the 1 year mark, I explained I needed it to send off for balancing with the motor parts and then it was assemble time, then break in time. Anyway I spoke to the main guy there when I purchased it from them explaining what I was doing and since they are local I decided to try the new 3+. I sent detailed pics and measured the wear. It chipped away at the rivet holes and trashed the disk and PP. I will see if I still have any pics.
I since went to a ACT 6 puck unsprung and love it! 8-9k rpm launches and all is well. I use about a disk a season.
Now on SPEC. I would never support them again after such shitty dealings, however I have read the earlier 3+'s had issues and have resolved them. My guess is mine was one of the first disks they made, maybe before they even realized there was an issue. I bought it around 3 years ago..
ACT all the way!
I since went to a ACT 6 puck unsprung and love it! 8-9k rpm launches and all is well. I use about a disk a season.
Now on SPEC. I would never support them again after such shitty dealings, however I have read the earlier 3+'s had issues and have resolved them. My guess is mine was one of the first disks they made, maybe before they even realized there was an issue. I bought it around 3 years ago..
ACT all the way!
This is exactly what happened to me when I used to run a Spec S3. This was 4 years ago. Thank god I got rid of it and went to ACT.
03-29-10, 10:30 AM
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so your saying i will mutch rather an ACT clutch the spec cause i will hate a harsh clutch and i drive around parking lots alot , and i am on and off the clutch alot alot! i want something easy and quick ?
03-29-10, 11:01 AM
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I would say if this is a street driven car stay away from unsprung clutches for 95% of the people out there. Look at either a one of these clutches see what falls into your budget and let me know
spec stage 3+ softer pedal feel
twin discs slightly stiffer pedal feel and noisy, grabby to some
ACT six puck sprung stiffer pedal feel and grabby, feels snappy.
The question is how much do you want to spend? PM me if you don't want that public.
~S~
spec stage 3+ softer pedal feel
twin discs slightly stiffer pedal feel and noisy, grabby to some
ACT six puck sprung stiffer pedal feel and grabby, feels snappy.
The question is how much do you want to spend? PM me if you don't want that public.
~S~