car wont stay running. head scratcher..
05-26-11, 04:54 PM
#1
car wont stay running. head scratcher..
Hey guys, let me give you a bit of background before I explain my problem. I have a single turbo 93 rx7 that was built by rotaryrebuildstore.com and recently tuned by speed 1. Just recently started driving the car a bit more and decided to change my walbro out for a denso tt supra pump.
Recently decided to go ahead and put the pump in. When I first started it it was fine, however, the pump would always need to be "primed" everytime i started the car to get fuel in the line after long periods of sitting.
I drove it for 2 days to work as I had no other transportation. On my way back from work on the second day i went to the gas station and got gas everything was fine. I was driving down the road and got on it a bit and noticed that it hesitated a tiny bit like when it was untuned and dumping fuel. I looked at my afr gauge and noticed it kept dropping way down. I instantly slowed down and started driving normal and the hesitation got worse and noticed my afr eventually just flatlined to 10. I barely got it down the road before it was just flooded out and couldnt start so i had to push/roll it the rest of the way. As soon as i got home I changed the pump back to my walbro and yanked my plugs. They were wet and totally fouled. Put an extra set in and tried starting it. It will not stay running unless you keep feathering the throttle. The fuel pressure is fine as I was checking that while my buddy was in the car tryin to keep it running. However my concern is that he said my injector duty cycle shot way up when he was giving it gas. close to 70 percent, and its still settling at 10-10.5 depending on how much gas you give it to keep it running. I have no idea what to think or where to start guys. Any ideas or a point in the right direction would be great as I dont have a datalogit so I can upload any info from the ecu.
Im running a garret t04s, tial 44mm wastegate, PowerFC, 3bar map sensor coolingmist stage 1 watermeth, rx7store fuel kit/ 1680s w/kgparts fuel rail and aermotive reg, motor rebuilt by rotaryrebuildstore.com. Motor just tuned 2 weeks ago by Dave @ Speed 1.
Recently decided to go ahead and put the pump in. When I first started it it was fine, however, the pump would always need to be "primed" everytime i started the car to get fuel in the line after long periods of sitting.
I drove it for 2 days to work as I had no other transportation. On my way back from work on the second day i went to the gas station and got gas everything was fine. I was driving down the road and got on it a bit and noticed that it hesitated a tiny bit like when it was untuned and dumping fuel. I looked at my afr gauge and noticed it kept dropping way down. I instantly slowed down and started driving normal and the hesitation got worse and noticed my afr eventually just flatlined to 10. I barely got it down the road before it was just flooded out and couldnt start so i had to push/roll it the rest of the way. As soon as i got home I changed the pump back to my walbro and yanked my plugs. They were wet and totally fouled. Put an extra set in and tried starting it. It will not stay running unless you keep feathering the throttle. The fuel pressure is fine as I was checking that while my buddy was in the car tryin to keep it running. However my concern is that he said my injector duty cycle shot way up when he was giving it gas. close to 70 percent, and its still settling at 10-10.5 depending on how much gas you give it to keep it running. I have no idea what to think or where to start guys. Any ideas or a point in the right direction would be great as I dont have a datalogit so I can upload any info from the ecu.
Im running a garret t04s, tial 44mm wastegate, PowerFC, 3bar map sensor coolingmist stage 1 watermeth, rx7store fuel kit/ 1680s w/kgparts fuel rail and aermotive reg, motor rebuilt by rotaryrebuildstore.com. Motor just tuned 2 weeks ago by Dave @ Speed 1.
05-27-11, 07:43 AM
#2
Hey guys, let me give you a bit of background before I explain my problem. I have a single turbo 93 rx7 that was built by rotaryrebuildstore.com and recently tuned by speed 1. Just recently started driving the car a bit more and decided to change my walbro out for a denso tt supra pump.
Recently decided to go ahead and put the pump in. When I first started it it was fine, however, the pump would always need to be "primed" everytime i started the car to get fuel in the line after long periods of sitting.
I drove it for 2 days to work as I had no other transportation. On my way back from work on the second day i went to the gas station and got gas everything was fine. I was driving down the road and got on it a bit and noticed that it hesitated a tiny bit like when it was untuned and dumping fuel. I looked at my afr gauge and noticed it kept dropping way down. I instantly slowed down and started driving normal and the hesitation got worse and noticed my afr eventually just flatlined to 10. I barely got it down the road before it was just flooded out and couldnt start so i had to push/roll it the rest of the way. As soon as i got home I changed the pump back to my walbro and yanked my plugs. They were wet and totally fouled. Put an extra set in and tried starting it. It will not stay running unless you keep feathering the throttle. The fuel pressure is fine as I was checking that while my buddy was in the car tryin to keep it running. However my concern is that he said my injector duty cycle shot way up when he was giving it gas. close to 70 percent, and its still settling at 10-10.5 depending on how much gas you give it to keep it running. I have no idea what to think or where to start guys. Any ideas or a point in the right direction would be great as I dont have a datalogit so I can upload any info from the ecu.
Im running a garret t04s, tial 44mm wastegate, PowerFC, 3bar map sensor coolingmist stage 1 watermeth, rx7store fuel kit/ 1680s w/kgparts fuel rail and aermotive reg, motor rebuilt by rotaryrebuildstore.com. Motor just tuned 2 weeks ago by Dave @ Speed 1.
Recently decided to go ahead and put the pump in. When I first started it it was fine, however, the pump would always need to be "primed" everytime i started the car to get fuel in the line after long periods of sitting.
I drove it for 2 days to work as I had no other transportation. On my way back from work on the second day i went to the gas station and got gas everything was fine. I was driving down the road and got on it a bit and noticed that it hesitated a tiny bit like when it was untuned and dumping fuel. I looked at my afr gauge and noticed it kept dropping way down. I instantly slowed down and started driving normal and the hesitation got worse and noticed my afr eventually just flatlined to 10. I barely got it down the road before it was just flooded out and couldnt start so i had to push/roll it the rest of the way. As soon as i got home I changed the pump back to my walbro and yanked my plugs. They were wet and totally fouled. Put an extra set in and tried starting it. It will not stay running unless you keep feathering the throttle. The fuel pressure is fine as I was checking that while my buddy was in the car tryin to keep it running. However my concern is that he said my injector duty cycle shot way up when he was giving it gas. close to 70 percent, and its still settling at 10-10.5 depending on how much gas you give it to keep it running. I have no idea what to think or where to start guys. Any ideas or a point in the right direction would be great as I dont have a datalogit so I can upload any info from the ecu.
Im running a garret t04s, tial 44mm wastegate, PowerFC, 3bar map sensor coolingmist stage 1 watermeth, rx7store fuel kit/ 1680s w/kgparts fuel rail and aermotive reg, motor rebuilt by rotaryrebuildstore.com. Motor just tuned 2 weeks ago by Dave @ Speed 1.
05-27-11, 12:12 PM
#3
Dave! What's up man. Update is my oring on the pump hanger was bad and was letting air.get in. However, car still dies right after starting. Giving gas only prolongs it for a.bit. I'm running 15psi, 93 octane. Was tuned for 15.. will compression test it today when i get home. Bought a new.set of plugs to see if.its super flooded.and simply cleaning them didn't help. Hopefully I don't have to.ship.you a motor 
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