Bosch 044 fuel sock?
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05-30-07, 12:36 AM
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grrrrr
damnit. thats what i didn't wan to hear, so any other ideas on how to install it in-tank. I just don't want to convert everything to a-n fittings so i can run it inline.
any help would be great
Scott
any help would be great
Scott
05-31-07, 03:11 PM
#12
There are sock filters with -6AN and -8AN male hose ends commonly available.
One could get a metric to -AN fitting for the bottom of the '044 pump and then a -AN 90 deg elbow and the -AN sock filter.
This will get pretty tall by the time it is assembled, don't know if there is room in the tank.
One could also get a metric to NPT or -AN fitting for the bottom of the pump to a drilled/tapped block with ports in the top for the pump fitting and 2 ports on one side for side by side -AN filters.
That would be shorter and provide lots of filter area (low restriction), but you would probably have to make the block yourself.
One could get a metric to -AN fitting for the bottom of the '044 pump and then a -AN 90 deg elbow and the -AN sock filter.
This will get pretty tall by the time it is assembled, don't know if there is room in the tank.
One could also get a metric to NPT or -AN fitting for the bottom of the pump to a drilled/tapped block with ports in the top for the pump fitting and 2 ports on one side for side by side -AN filters.
That would be shorter and provide lots of filter area (low restriction), but you would probably have to make the block yourself.
06-01-07, 06:05 AM
#14
There are sock filters with -6AN and -8AN male hose ends commonly available.
One could get a metric to -AN fitting for the bottom of the '044 pump and then a -AN 90 deg elbow and the -AN sock filter.
This will get pretty tall by the time it is assembled, don't know if there is room in the tank.
One could also get a metric to NPT or -AN fitting for the bottom of the pump to a drilled/tapped block with ports in the top for the pump fitting and 2 ports on one side for side by side -AN filters.
That would be shorter and provide lots of filter area (low restriction), but you would probably have to make the block yourself.
One could get a metric to -AN fitting for the bottom of the '044 pump and then a -AN 90 deg elbow and the -AN sock filter.
This will get pretty tall by the time it is assembled, don't know if there is room in the tank.
One could also get a metric to NPT or -AN fitting for the bottom of the pump to a drilled/tapped block with ports in the top for the pump fitting and 2 ports on one side for side by side -AN filters.
That would be shorter and provide lots of filter area (low restriction), but you would probably have to make the block yourself.
or why don't you just sell the inline bosch filter and buy the intank one. I"m sure they have filters readily available for that...just a thought.
06-02-07, 12:11 AM
#18
so if your going to spend that much money on 90's and metric to -AN fittings and filters why don't you just spend the 80 on the filter that fits?
or why don't you just sell the inline bosch filter and buy the intank one. I"m sure they have filters readily available for that...just a thought.
or why don't you just sell the inline bosch filter and buy the intank one. I"m sure they have filters readily available for that...just a thought.
It will suck air up more easily as fuel is sloshed away from any part of the filter area.
The universal sock filters would be cheaper and offer more surface area (less pressure drop).
The intank Bosch pump does not perform as well as the external '044.
One could also get a good sock filter like the ks190 and figure out the correct size metric to NPT adapter to thread it on though the filters plastic bushing.
06-02-07, 03:36 PM
#21
Hmm, sock filter may not have more surface area than the cannister type filter- I wasn't thinking about the pleats...But the sucking in air part really would still suck.
I think most people use a "bulkhead fitting" to go through the fuel pump cover plate when not using the stock fuel lines.
You would have to cut off both sides of the stock tube and drill the cover there larger for the bulkhead fitting.
Then use some means to seal between the fitting inside the tank and the cover- a crush washer or o-ring bonded washer between the fitting and the cover would do it with the nut on the outside of the tank.
Definitely put something on the threads to keep them from backing off- something permanent like epoxy.
The larger gauge wire to supply the fuel pump is also typically fed through a bulkhead fitting as well with the remaining space inside the fitting completely filled with epoxy to seal it.
I think the problem most people have with the Bosch '044 in tank is that by the time you need the pump (500HP +) you have big sticky tires to put the power down and they have enough traction to generate the Gs to slosh the fuel away from the pick up area.
Solving this while retaining the stock gas tank is typically done by having a stock-ish in-tank pump to a surge tank to the Bosch '044 like on a circuit car.
I think most people use a "bulkhead fitting" to go through the fuel pump cover plate when not using the stock fuel lines.
You would have to cut off both sides of the stock tube and drill the cover there larger for the bulkhead fitting.
Then use some means to seal between the fitting inside the tank and the cover- a crush washer or o-ring bonded washer between the fitting and the cover would do it with the nut on the outside of the tank.
Definitely put something on the threads to keep them from backing off- something permanent like epoxy.
The larger gauge wire to supply the fuel pump is also typically fed through a bulkhead fitting as well with the remaining space inside the fitting completely filled with epoxy to seal it.
I think the problem most people have with the Bosch '044 in tank is that by the time you need the pump (500HP +) you have big sticky tires to put the power down and they have enough traction to generate the Gs to slosh the fuel away from the pick up area.
Solving this while retaining the stock gas tank is typically done by having a stock-ish in-tank pump to a surge tank to the Bosch '044 like on a circuit car.
