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Old 01-17-13, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
The question is, do you have any experience with any of them?

My experience based on this:
No, i dont have any experience with them, that's why i wanted people with personal experience to chime in, i ordered a jaytech lower with an e&j TB. I figured you had experience with them actually which is why i'd rather have your input on it.
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Run whatever you're comfortable with. They will all work. It's just a matter of what you will use it for now and/or later. You said you wanted driveability and later "Drag Queen". Are you always going to run Semi or not? Do you prefer street port, bridge, Semi? How much do you have to burn$$$? It all depends on many factors. Good luck with your choice.
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
No, i dont have any experience with them, that's why i wanted people with personal experience to chime in, i ordered a jaytech lower with an e&j TB. I figured you had experience with them actually which is why i'd rather have your input on it.
Sorry for coming up like an ***, I guess I got "worked up" on the subject while reading the expert opinion of others Unfortunately, I dont have much to compare it with. I've done bench dyno comparisons against other similar setups on OEM intake manifolds, but thats just as good as coming out of the woods claiming that one is better than the other.

I went from a rough tune stock FC turbo/intake manifold, to my current setup. I honestly did not noticed any response changes, but this setup pulls harder which is expected with the full TO4S.

I had "big" plans for my setup, and everything started with the intake manifold setup. Over time, I had to keep changing what I wanted, in order to keep it more in tune with reality, and above all my wallet. From a half bridge T66 that I had planned, I ended up with a stock port, TO4S
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Sorry for coming up like an ***, I guess I got "worked up" on the subject while reading the expert opinion of others Unfortunately, I dont have much to compare it with. I've done bench dyno comparisons against other similar setups on OEM intake manifolds, but thats just as good as coming out of the woods claiming that one is better than the other.

I went from a rough tune stock FC turbo/intake manifold, to my current setup. I honestly did not noticed any response changes, but this setup pulls harder which is expected with the full TO4S.

I had "big" plans for my setup, and everything started with the intake manifold setup. Over time, I had to keep changing what I wanted, in order to keep it more in tune with reality, and above all my wallet. From a half bridge T66 that I had planned, I ended up with a stock port, TO4S
it's all good, i'm going with a stock port t78, i honestly just like how the setup looks, performs, and the room it frees up under the hood, the stock manifold takes up a good bit of room and can get in the way. and yeah i got a little worked up also which was why i wanted the opinion of somebody who actually has one of these setups, which i figured you did.
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
it's all good, i'm going with a stock port t78, i honestly just like how the setup looks, performs, and the room it frees up under the hood, the stock manifold takes up a good bit of room and can get in the way. and yeah i got a little worked up also which was why i wanted the opinion of somebody who actually has one of these setups, which i figured you did.
I have 0 complaints with my setup, and the "extra" space on the engine bay is a plus for me. There are two or three issues with this type of setup:

1 - Intake manifold will be wider, thus giving you less space between the manifold and the frame/chassis

2 - Bolt on intercoolers will not be bolt on anymore

3 - Non progressive throttle (which somebody already posted a fix for the E&J TB). With the non progressive throttle, the momentary lean condition experienced when opening the throttle will be much more noticeable with this setup.

Which TB hat will you be using? I *think* that I still have the old one that I was using previously. It that HAD the tial BOV flange welded to it, which means that you will have to reweld a flange on it, or have it welded shut. You are welcome to have it, if you need one and if I can find it.

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Originally Posted by KNONFS
I have 0 complaints with my setup, and the "extra" space on the engine bay is a plus for me. There are two or three issues with this type of setup:

1 - Intake manifold will be wider, thus giving you less space between the manifold and the frame/chassis

2 - Bolt on intercoolers will not be bolt on anymore

3 - Non progressive throttle (which somebody already posted a fix for the E&J TB). With the non progressive throttle, the momentary lean condition experienced when opening the throttle will be much more noticeable with this setup.

Which TB hat will you be using? I *think* that I still have the old one that I was using previously. It that HAD the tial BOV flange welded to it, which means that you will have to reweld a flange on it, or have it welded shut. You are welcome to have it, if you need one and if I can find it.

I have a very low profile carb hat, and I plan on still using my current intercooler, i believe there's a way to route the intercooler piping so that it will clear the hood still, just gotta have it redone. but yeah the jaytech manifold is going to be shortened for me , and the carb hat is low profile so that it will clear the hood, and when i get the TB in, i'm going to modify it so that it opens progressively.
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
I have a very low profile carb hat, and I plan on still using my current intercooler, i believe there's a way to route the intercooler piping so that it will clear the hood still, just gotta have it redone. but yeah the jaytech manifold is going to be shortened for me , and the carb hat is low profile so that it will clear the hood, and when i get the TB in, i'm going to modify it so that it opens progressively.
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Does anybody know anything about the potential issues you can run into if you Rotate the E&J TB? ( i ended up going with projay lower w/ the E&J TB). I know there are a couple of people who have ran the setup with the throttlebody rotated, which is what i want to do but i was warned to be careful if i do that. can anybody chime in on this?
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
Does anybody know anything about the potential issues you can run into if you Rotate the E&J TB? ( i ended up going with projay lower w/ the E&J TB). I know there are a couple of people who have ran the setup with the throttlebody rotated, which is what i want to do but i was warned to be careful if i do that. can anybody chime in on this?
Can't imagine being an issue, since all 4 plates open up at the same time; but why? Is it because of the throttle cable?
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Can't imagine being an issue, since all 4 plates open up at the same time; but why? Is it because of the throttle cable?
no, i just think it would be easier to route my intercooler piping with the TB rotated so that all i have to do is get a new elbow made pretty much.
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Which hat are you using and have you check to see if it clears your hood?
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
no, i just think it would be easier to route my intercooler piping with the TB rotated so that all i have to do is get a new elbow made pretty much.
You should be able to rotate the hat, without having to change anything on the TB.
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I actually have two different hats, i was planning on using the Extreme velocity hat though, and My Projay manifold is going to be cut already so that it clears the hood, but i know if my extreme velocity hat doesn't work then my other hat will because it's super low profile.
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These are the carb hats that I have, im going to use one and get rid of the other one ( i honestly just didn't care for the look of the other one, but i will use it if i have to) but i'm pretty sure with the lower manifold shortened, the Extreme velocity hat will clear the hood, now can i sit it on the throttlebody without having to rotate the throttlebody and route the piping the same way as the stock manifold?

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I want to run my carb hat and intercooler piping similar to this

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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
I want to run my carb hat and intercooler piping similar to this

as you can see though, he rotated the throttlebody.
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Originally Posted by Islander
Give it up bubba. You will never catch me.
Neal, i'm comin for ya! lol
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Originally Posted by drftinmx6
as you can see though, he rotated the throttlebody.
Aha, the TB had to be resposition because that hat would not clear the fuel rails. Out of all the issues that I had to work around, that was not one of it

I dont think you will have any issues, since the E&J TB is non progressive.
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Just to keep in mind. I dont believe you could rotate a progressive throttle body like RxParts ect. Guess it was good you went with E&J setup.
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true, good point yeah i e-mailed edgar and asked about it he just said to be careful incase for some reason the butterflies don't open at the same time because it could cause a rotor to run lean. But i don't think i'll have an issue with that. If other people have rotated the TB and ran it like that then I don't see why I can't run it like that.
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