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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Anybody using Bosch 044 Racing Fuel Pumps - 300+LPH/700+HP

As a In-Tank pump, just wondering how eaasy or complicated the installation was, and if I would need any special fittings?

Still debating on the bosch or supra fuel pump!
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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i have 2 044 bosch pumps mounted externally in my car buy i've used them on in tank set-ups in a dozen rx-7's and vws.
the feed side of the pump has some weird thread fitting that comes with the pump and i was able to get an adapter to -10 an for it from moreland hose

http://www.morelandhose.com/
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEED_NYC
i have 2 044 bosch pumps mounted externally in my car buy i've used them on in tank set-ups in a dozen rx-7's and vws.
the feed side of the pump has some weird thread fitting that comes with the pump and i was able to get an adapter to -10 an for it from moreland hose

http://www.morelandhose.com/
cool, thanks for the info!
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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toped one out around here with 450-480rwhp
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I have one in tank. At least two more have them here local.

None of them have maxed out with upgraded wiring and lines. All of them well above 460RWHP.

Of course if you don't design a system to support the pump...you'll max anything out.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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cool, thanks for the info!
Summit sells them to the AN-08 too.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Any issues with the pump dieying prematurely?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Any issues with the pump dieying prematurely?
No. Good voltage and ground helps.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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No. Good voltage and ground helps.
Thanks for the info, reliability is what kept me away from the aeromotive.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Thanks for the info, reliability is what kept me away from the aeromotive.
Problems? I know people running their pumps without issue too.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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I have heard that via the rumor mill, but nobody that owned own, just shops bad mouthing them. I have an A1000, it easily supports 500rwhp in my car, tons of fuel in the return line...
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I'll roger up to being one of the Aeromotive failure. It was my secondary pump, was mounted well below the surge tank it drew from and received full voltage (13.X volts). Lasted about 9K miles with only a few track days on it. I autopsied the pump with nothing readily obvious pointing to the failure node, though admittedly I'm not an engineer.

Back to Bosch for me...
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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I run it in tank, but after issues with fuel starvation in cornering, i am thinking about moving it out in combination with surge tank
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Byck
I have heard that via the rumor mill, but nobody that owned own, just shops bad mouthing them. I have an A1000, it easily supports 500rwhp in my car, tons of fuel in the return line...
Are you using the fuel pump speed controller? If not, how many miles do you have on it? I am not doubting its supporting HP\GAL, but I need a good pump for a daily use vehicle.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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I run it in tank, but after issues with fuel starvation in cornering, i am thinking about moving it out in combination with surge tank
At this point, I almost positive that I will go the surge tank route, but can you tell me mre about droping it in tank on a FC?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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even 2nd try with remodelling pickup point did not helped, i am building surge tank and setting it up external

not sure about size of surge tank and if stock TII pump will be ok for feeding surge, should see in summer
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Originally Posted by Carlos Iglesias
I'll roger up to being one of the Aeromotive failure. It was my secondary pump, was mounted well below the surge tank it drew from and received full voltage (13.X volts). Lasted about 9K miles with only a few track days on it. I autopsied the pump with nothing readily obvious pointing to the failure node, though admittedly I'm not an engineer.

Back to Bosch for me...
I thought if the pump was to be used for more than 30 minutes at a time, you should use a voltage controller. Atleast that's what they told me. That could be why it went out.

Unless your running the Bosch straight to the battery, it should act the same as the stock pump, switching from 9-12+ volts.

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Aeromotive controller marketing assessment

Alex,

I personally believe that Aeromotive's (the originating source of your understanding) caveat against operating the pump for more than 30 minutes due to potential pump damage if used without their super-duper special controller is a bandaid to a crappy design. NO other pump maufacturer nor EFI shop that I've heard of or talked with (including Marren, Kinsler and RC) has made a similar recommendation.

Anecdotally, I had a Bosch pump in my last FD for quite a few year, and as long as the in-coming fuel was properly strained by an inlet sock (learned this the hard way), the pump worked like a champ in what was a daily driver for many years. Think it'll be a LONG time before I buy other than a Bosch pump!

Both my internal and external pumps have been customed wired to get's full battery voltage (13+ volts) NOT regulated voltage (12.X volts). The stock fuel pump resistor is a fossil buried somewhere in my garage... anyone need to buy one?! ;-)

If you have any questions on my setup, please check out my thread that is linked in my sig below.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Who can post some photos with dual - external - Bosch 0.44 in FD ?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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I run 3 total one in tank into a surge two after the surge. They're great pumps.

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Hi Sean. We run two pumps out of a sump on the bottom of the tank with our gt42r setup
and we put down 668rwhp so far @ 32psi and still going up. R
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
I run 3 total one in tank into a surge two after the surge. They're great pumps.

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Originally Posted by Xcessive
Hi Sean. We run two pumps out of a sump on the bottom of the tank with our gt42r setup
and we put down 668rwhp so far @ 32psi and still going up. R
Do you guys run a pulsation dampener? or straight up to a FPR?
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where can i source one for in tank use with the filter sock without being worried that it might be a chinese knockoff in a bosch box?
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Straight to FPR. 044 in tank. One pump (smaller 910 I think) to primary rail one 044 to secondary rails -8 lines.

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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FCNAred
where can i source one for in tank use with the filter sock without being worried that it might be a chinese knockoff in a bosch box?
Hard pressed to find one with a sock....but Truchoice sells the pump and all the fuel sock parts you would need.
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