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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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How does the os clutch/flywheel compare in weight to the stock flywheel with a sprung 6 puck? I'm thinking of going with the os but i've also considered having a lighter flywheel to free up some revs.
I went from an ACT Prolite Flywheel/6puck sprung/HD Pressure plate to a OS-Giken Twin Disc and I can't tell the difference in "reviness". I am sure the OS Giken has more total mas but it is concentrated towards the center compared to the ACT setup. Inertia wise....I think they are pretty close....I would say its at least like my old setup but with the Streetlite flywheel instead of the Prolite.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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has anyone ever maxed out a ACT 6 puck unsprung?

i know my old fd put down a little over 600 whp without any problems........ but has anyone maxed it out?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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I'm telling you if you're looking for a long-term clutch and every plan on going over 500whp at some point, go with a Tilton flywheel and 7.25" twin-disc metallic disc clutch. You can buy new discs for $100, it's fully rebuildable. Ask 13B-RX3 where he got the flywheel from, I currently have his old one.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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twin plate

I bought a OS-giken metal twin plate. Iam going to be drifting so i cant really skimp on a clutch. GL.
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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I'm running the HKS GD PRO Twin Disc on my car, the thing grips like a son of a bitch but only downside is that it's noisy and sounds like a bag of marbles when engaged lol. This is on a 344 rwhp / 294 lb torque @ 14 PSI (7000 rpm) street car application by the way.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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I am b/w the act 6 puck sprung and unsprung. I like the smoother engagement and low noise of the sprung.the
Diff b/w the two is 514 vs 577 lb/tq. How much whp is 514lb/tq in an rx7? What about 577?
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Im almost sure its flywheel rated, NOT wheel.
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Im almost sure its flywheel rated, NOT wheel.
Either way. How much whp is 514 or 577 lb/tq?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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i bought the act 4 puck solid (unsprung). I know that it has some chattering, but i mostly drive my car on the weekends and track. Plus i plan to have a lot of 8000rpm launches.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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worst case scenario i replaced the disc with a 6puck sprung disc since the pressure plates are the same
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by janrx7
Either way. How much whp is 514 or 577 lb/tq?
Thats pretty hard to gauge, but Ernie T roughly makes 900fwhp and 700fwtq. So, I think you're looking at around 700/750 fly wheel horse power.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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I should update. Since the last time i posted I cut a 1.47 60' and have another handful of 10 second passes on this ACT 6-puck.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Thats pretty hard to gauge, but Ernie T roughly makes 900fwhp and 700fwtq. So, I think you're looking at around 700/750 fly wheel horse power.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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attn bullshitter, no he's not
Attn Dick:

That's what it says in his sig.

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781whp is roughly 900 fly wheel horsepower.

589wtq is roughly 700 flywheel torque.

P.S. I can deadlift more then you IRL.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking War Hammer
has anyone ever maxed out a ACT 6 puck unsprung?

i know my old fd put down a little over 600 whp without any problems........ but has anyone maxed it out?
I have. just did it this weekend at the track.. At around 620rwhp and it started to slip top of 3rd and completely let go in 4th gear. this was a new clutch with about 800 miles but i guess you can say very abused miles. Act extreme PP with a unsprung 6 puck.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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My friend maxed out an Act 6puck unsprung. He was pushing 612whp at the time. Now he Has a 4 puck disc, which he claims holds better. This was the clutch that i installed. I am in the process of breaking in the clutch although ACT says that a race disc like this one only needs a few hard slips and you are good to go.

The box said that this clutch is not for street use, but i don't feel it that uncomfortable nor particularly hard. AIming for 525whp. Hope it holds fine with a bunch of 8000rpms launches.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I think 500 is the limit for the ACT 6 puck race disc. I remember last year when I raced dj and his Ls1 rx7 the clutch was brand new and I only had 501rwhp at the time.. after 3 burnouts and then the race the clutch slipped really bad in 3rd and 4th. You can hear it in the video. I think you can get away with one pass or so but back to back abuse will make it slip. This past weekend I made one run with 497hp and it was fine, the next run i turned it up to 620 and it couldnt hold the power. So anything over 500 will kill an ACT pretty quick and eventually start to slip.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by turboR1
I think 500 is the limit for the ACT 6 puck race disc. I remember last year when I raced dj and his Ls1 rx7 the clutch was brand new and I only had 501rwhp at the time.. after 3 burnouts and then the race the clutch slipped really bad in 3rd and 4th. You can hear it in the video. I think you can get away with one pass or so but back to back abuse will make it slip. This past weekend I made one run with 497hp and it was fine, the next run i turned it up to 620 and it couldnt hold the power. So anything over 500 will kill an ACT pretty quick and eventually start to slip.
I think it's safe to say that goes for pretty much any single disk. They can only go so far, even more so under track abuse.
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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I just began to drive my rx7 with 4 puck solid clutch on stop and go traffic and it is really annoying. I can live with the harsh pedal feel but it is very grabby. There is no slippin, so it si difficult to get off the line in stop and go traffic. Other than that the clucth is holding up fine.
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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6 pucks suck to drive on the street. I use an Exedy Twin Carbon now
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Running a Triple OS Giken Clutch now upgraded from the twin plate, its tranferring more of the power to the wheels now as the twin plate couldnt hold the power when I was upping the boost it was slipping at around the 130mph terminals runs
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Running a Triple OS Giken Clutch now upgraded from the twin plate, its tranferring more of the power to the wheels now as the twin plate couldnt hold the power when I was upping the boost it was slipping at around the 130mph terminals runs
A twin plate couldn't hold the torque from a 470 hp rotary? That seems odd to me. I was planning on getting the OS Gilken at some point because my 6 puck slips on hard shifts from 3rd to 4th. I was hoping the twin plate would hold over 400 ft/lbs
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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my cusco twin plate with ~15,0000kms on it started failing around the 370rwkw mark. slipped when boost came on. bear in mind this is with a BIG 'laggy' turbo so power comes on all at once.

HKS GD max twinplate now, no problems whatsoever - apart from removing the gearbox! What used to be a 1 hour job in and out, is now a 5hr one! (having to remove clutchcover thru the inspection holes and disassemble the locking rings to separate)
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dhahlen
6 pucks suck to drive on the street. I use an Exedy Twin Carbon now
i went with the os giken twin dissc. as stated above but i got one for a reasonable price. the thing is that when you get these clutches the replacement for the disc is the same amount as when you would replace a act clutch so in reality you come out cheaper. Not to mention that it is driveable on the street & it last 10x longer (as in years)
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