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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Who said Back pressure helped spool? I see statements about small amounts of BP helping torque, but certainlly not spool, as you say, just the opposite.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zero R
With that said I'm real stupid and run a 5" DP that transitions into a 4" rear section. If I could run a full 5" I would but at the moment it just isn't happening.
Holy crap thats huge... Love to see the pics of that.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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lol....my brother runs open dp on his protege5 - T. We definately noted an increase in power/ spool up speeds. While sounding like a UPS truck of course. Not recommended on internally wastegated turbos;p
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Byck
Who said Back pressure helped spool? I see statements about small amounts of BP helping torque, but certainlly not spool, as you say, just the opposite.
Right here same thread.

Originally Posted by the_glass_man
A little back pressure can be a good thing. It can help with spool. A 3" exhaust is more than enough.

As for back pressure being good, nope.


"Relieving too much backpressure can't be good because a certain amount of backpressure is needed for optimum performance."

Actually that's bassackwards. A good exhaust/manifold/header will not only relieve backpressure, but goes one further and creates a vacuum in the header/manifold. When the next cylinder's/exhaust valve opens, the vacuum in the system pulls the exhaust out of the cylinder. This is what the term "Scavenging" means, also why and where the "tuned" comes from. Things may work a little differently on our rotaries but the principles are still the same.

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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MY opinion I have run a 3.5" DP and complete 3.5 system for 5yrs. but I got the idea from caterpillar who had done R$D in 1958 , which is a 7 degree expansion rate starting from the exducer dia. out to a 100% increase in conduit dia. it was in some old text book i read, but im not sure caterpillar knows what there talking about etheir? RON
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 03:01 AM
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Guess i missed that one LOL
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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a guy I know who works at yaw power said that 3.5 will outflow a 4" because of the scavenging and some other stuff, I don't remember exactly what he said. I was thinking of running 5" off the turbo for ~ a foot then down to 4" for the rest of the dp and have the rest of the exhaust be 3.5. I need to find some v-bands tho... Hey Carl, I thought I saw you say you can get v-bands from NAPA truck division or something??? I asked about it once at a regular NAPA and they acted like I was on crack..
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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that is enteresting to mate a 5" pipe to a single turbo without serious transition problems, thats part of the key to response and hi flow RON
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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OH yes I have some 12" dia. V-BAND clamps, Ilike big exhausts but making the sound reasonable is difficult.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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You can definitely get every exhaust, and v band set up known tio man through NAPA truck division, there is one in Santa Rosa California. Carl
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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awesome, thanks carl, I think there's one just a few miles from me, but was hoping they weren't going to act like I had no idea what I was talking about like the regular store. ronbros3, the reason I was going w/ 5" off the turbo is due to a 5" v-band turbine exit, otherwise I would just go with 4", but that seems like more work cutting the existing flange off and welding on a smaller 4"...

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Old May 3, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 2a+RoN
awesome, thanks carl, I think there's one just a few miles from me, but was hoping they weren't going to act like I had no idea what I was talking about like the regular store. ronbros3, the reason I was going w/ 5" off the turbo is due to a 5" v-band turbine exit, otherwise I would just go with 4", but that seems like more work cutting the existing flange off and welding on a smaller 4"...

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you dont need one of these for a GT40 huh?5 inch band for a 4. sumthin to a 3.5.
Its for the gT40 with the 5inch cast flange.Ready to go.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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ooh... that bolts up to the 5" v-band outlet? how much and where did you get it from?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2a+RoN
ooh... that bolts up to the 5" v-band outlet? how much and where did you get it from?
I had it custom made from high quality SS. A blank used in down hole drilling. NHRA champion Mark Oswald was kind enough to fabricate it for me.Then I sold the gT40. It cost me over a $100 with that band($45.00) (which was a bitch to find cause of the size is not standerd)Machined to spec to fit inside the bell.
Maybe I got ripped by the band cost but to buy a blank of SS and have it mic-ed and machined with two sizes......
Uh want to buy?PM me.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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check out a 5" DP lol

I may try a 4" exhaust in the future
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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nice quick dump! 1 foot?
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