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Old May 17, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Bad sales transaction with Edbltx7

To make a long story short, they listed a N/A 6 port motor for sale for $300. I got it for $250. Installed it my son's FB. It ran good except the motor was smoking. I pulled the motor immediately and the front header was soaked with oil. Told Eddie about it but I got several excuses that his buddy was busy so I couldnt drop off the motor and get my refund. I have the PMs that went on between Eddie and I.

Now, his buddy wotn give me a refund and he blamed me for blowing the motor. I explained to him that the motor is not blown except it wont stop smoking which an indication that this motor has more than 100K miles, not 67K miles, as they advertised. so here's the link @ west forum.



https://www.rx7club.com/west-sale-wanted-classifieds-195/fs-running-s4-n-motor-830070/
Old May 18, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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That sucks bro. I hope things get squared away for you and your son. What blows even more is that they are locals to you as well. Good luck!
Old May 18, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Quote from Eddie:
1- I was just the seller. I was just playing middle man to all this **** and I dont appreciate being put on blast. If it were MY motor, I would gladly refunded your money but the deal is between you and Sench.

Sorry Eddie but you are responsible for this as you vouched for your friend by selling the engine for him which is against the rules.

I recommend that you refund Mel's money and then work it out between you and your friend.
Old May 18, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Right on! You have to becareful who you vouch for. GL wacky.
Old May 18, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by edbltx7

ever got a missed call from you Mel. You know I have ALWAYS returned your calls and PMs.

1- I was just the seller. I was just playing middle man to all this **** and I dont appreciate being put on blast. If it were MY motor, I would gladly refunded your money but the deal is between you and Sench.
2- Making threats is serious business. Sench told me that you guys had a nasty convo and quite honestly I care to be part of it. Last thing I need is to have my cars vandalized over a $250 deal.
3- Why would I wanna ruin my rep on RX7Club? I'm not shady and everyone knows it...**** I even let people have things for free out of the kindness of my heart.

Like I said I was just posting the **** for him. Sorry if the deal went bad but please do tell me how I am the one who should resolve this. Mel knows where he lives and has his number. I think I should be left alone

1. we exchanged PM's. you gave me the impression that he was going to refund my money. then your comments changed during the Atlanta drift event. In fact, I left you a voice message after I talked to Sench. I kept all of our PM's. Mods can read it if they want.


2. making threats is a serious business? I can take you to small claims but I dont want to take that route. For $250, I dont need to get my hands dirty plus I outgrew beating up ******** like you and Sench. I would rather broadcast this bad dealing to every local groups.


3. Shady? you and your buddy are shady....now for discussion purposes, who else did you sell a junk motor too...If Im not mistaken, you sold a junk motor to another local last month or almost the same time that I picked up the motor.

Also, you knew upfront how this will turn out but lied. After you told me that I can return the motor, I picked up a rebuildable core from Rene.


4. No I dont know where he lives and yes, you are part of this. I dont buy used motor but since you seem honest, I took a chance.
Old May 19, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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PM's were forwarded to Rx-7Doctor for review. Then I will post it for "show and tell"
Old May 20, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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dang wacky i heard bout this guy... he sold fris a bad motor too..fris told me he took apart the motor and found a penny and nickel in the housings... 2 bad sales in a row to people i know...
THAT S**T DON'T FLY WERE I'M FROM... SO I'LL DO EVERYBODY A FAVOR I MEAN EVERYONE A FAVOR INCLUDING ROTARY GUYS, HONDA GUYS, VW GUYS, ALL CAR ENTHUSIASTS ABOUT THIS BAD SELLER... DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN AGAIN...
Old May 20, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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this is no bueno. good luck with your refund manong or getting this thing somehow resolved.
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Mel,

Go ahead and post your pm's up. As long as no personal information such as phone and address are present you are good to go.

Eddie,

I would expect you to post in here and resolve this issue as If you do not I will have no recourse but to treat you as any other member that did not take care of their responsibilities.
Old May 20, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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thanks Doc, I will post them tonight.
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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ow wow, i guess someone forgot to read the for sale section rules =/. hope everything goes well wacky, its not even about the money its the principal of the situation.
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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thanks bros. its hard to believe that another local and a fellow RX member just scammed me
Old May 20, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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let me try this
Originally Posted by edbltx7
Originally Posted by wackyracer
Originally Posted by edbltx7
Originally Posted by wackyracer
Originally Posted by edbltx7
Originally Posted by wackyracer
I tought it was the oil when that I poured in the intake/handcranked to lubricate the internals. Smoke didnt go away and then when I drove it last tuesday, it has a bad oil seals. it ate 1/4 quart of oil in no time.
Oh man I'm sorry. I will let my buddy know and have hime return the money or I can try to source another motor if you'd like.

np bro. I will just get a daily driver corolla or something. if you want to see the motor, let me know before I pull it out. unfortunately, I cant drive it..dont want another ticket.

thanks
Damn Mel I feel bad. So should I tell my buddy to reimburse you?

Ed
Dont feel bad, its ok, **** happens. if you can, please let him know. My schedule is kinda bad this Saturday as I need to help my cousin so I may not be able to get the motor out until Sunday or vice versa.

thanks again
Mel
Its ok. We wont need the motor or wont be using it for a while so no hurry. In the mean time I'll try to source a good running S4 motor. I might have a S5 motor that runs fine but is just a bit tired. Prob not what you want but if you could use it I'll try to get it. So for now dont worry about taking it out. We'll square it all away when you're settled down and have more time
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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another e-mail
Originally Posted by edbltx7
Originally Posted by wackyracer
Hi Eddie,
the motor is out. let me know when I can drop it off and pick up the cash. another problem that I found was that the anti-freeze turned brown (from green) which is an indication of cracked side plate.

I found another car for daily driver. I will go and check it out tonite.

thanks
Mel
Mel,

I will let my buddy know tonight. I'll give you a call as soon as he's ready. We're busy getting ready for D1 in Anaheim.
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Originally Posted by wackyracer
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
Originally Posted by wackyracer
Hi Eddie,
the motor is out. let me know when I can drop it off and pick up the cash. another problem that I found was that the anti-freeze turned brown (from green) which is an indication of cracked side plate.

I found another car for daily driver. I will go and check it out tonite.

thanks
Mel
Mel,

I will let my buddy know tonight. I'll give you a call as soon as he's ready. We're busy getting ready for D1 in Anaheim.

Hi Ed,
Just wondering when I can drop off the motor and pick up the cash.

thanks
Mel
Hey Mel,

Ummm I think my buddy Sench was supposed to sort this out with you since it was his motor. he's in Atlanta for Formula D but here's his number. he said just call him whenever to to sort things out. I was just middle man


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np. i will just wait. when is he coming back?
I thinkthey will be back in Cali by May 12 or 13
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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I was so pissed off that I went ahead and took the motor apart. reason for brown coolant.

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looks like someone sold you a piece of s**t...
Old May 21, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Wow. Eddie was being so cool about it in the PMs, I was like, WTF's Mel's problem with him? ...-And then Eddie drops responsibility of all of it like a wet sock. Seems like Sench said something that let Eddie know just how much this wasn't gonna be pretty, and Eddie tried his best to distance himself form it as fast as possible.

But who would be so downright stupid as to sell a fukt rotary to someone so experienced as Mel? I mean, aside of being shitty (...and let's face it, shitty dealers with less than ideal scruples are par for the course), that's just downright stupid.

If this cat cheats fellow rotorheads, I have to wonder if's he's on the up & up on the track.

Really sorry about this Mel. You've always shown me nothing but good & generous business attitude. Hope this doesn't jade ya.
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Eddie,

You have until Sunday night to respond to this in this thread.

After that point I will take my usual action regarding matters such as this.
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IMO, I would repost this in the west section wacky. GL making it right.
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Eddie,
I will take my usual action regarding matters such as this.
use alot of lube he is young!
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IMO, I would repost this in the west section wacky. GL making it right.
good idea. lets make it a sticky also
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Whoa WTF guys. I am not shady. When RX7Doc said to post in BG I had no idea what that meant but I just now found this since doc PM'd me.

Mel,

I thought you were cool. I hate when people put my business up for others to see. This **** doesent fly in MY book. I dont care for threats. I know people too but it wont come to that, EVER. I'm 25 years old and I know this is all stupid useless drama which I FUCKEN HATE!

I'll have your money soon even if it means getting a payday advance. I wont risk my rep as a good seller/buyer. There are many members here that can vouch for me but I wont get them involved.

As for Fris, I already told him I would take care of it but you dont see him being a little kid over it. He knows I'm good for it. I dont believe in ******* people over, especially people that can potentially help me one day.

As of now consider this issue almost resolved. Lets just keep it out of the forums and call me tomorrow after 5pm when I'm off of work.


To all members who are wondering about me and my "SHADY" deals, its not like that. I always buy and sell here and will keep my word to sell only **** that I know is legit and mine. Mel after this I hope that we can either part ways or put all this horse **** to rest and consider ourselves fellow rotary owners and acquaintances.


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