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Old 05-28-09, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by habu2
edbltx7, when are you going to figure out your "buddy" Sench is the one screwing your reputation? You should be all over your "buddy" and see that he makes things right with Mel, not backing off and shunning responsibility. You brokered the deal, as such you are just as accountable for the deal as Sench is.

Refund Mel's money and then go get your money back from Sench. If he's really your buddy that shoudn't be a problem. IF he's really your buddy.....
So you're saying you'd give someone a refund if you're friend had asked you to ONLY put something up for sale for him since he isn't an active forum member?

is that what you're implying?
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Old 05-28-09, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
So you're saying you'd give someone a refund if you're friend had asked you to ONLY put something up for sale for him since he isn't an active forum member?

is that what you're implying?
Most people wouldnt post stuff up for shady "friends" Seriously, why doesnt the purchaser of the engine sell the parts, get whatever money possible and if it is less than $250.00 you guys can refund him the difference. The parts on ebay would probably bring over $250.00 no problem. Hell I might buy some stuff
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Originally Posted by djseven
Most people wouldnt post stuff up for shady "friends" Seriously, why doesnt the purchaser of the engine sell the parts, get whatever money possible and if it is less than $250.00 you guys can refund him the difference. The parts on ebay would probably bring over $250.00 no problem. Hell I might buy some stuff
My buddy isnt a shady guy. mel just came off the wrong way by making threats. Thats where it all went to ****. My buddy does not take to things like that very well like any normal human being.

The selling of the parts isn't a bad idea tho
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wow:|
mel hasnt sold me anything that didnt work, he actually has given me some **** and said, rebuild it and it will run, and it did, look in my rx4 wagon.
having done business in all forms, you never, and i mean NEVER, vouche for someone. in any sales model. for 250 bucks, give him his money and call it a day. its easy to say here is ur money and save face. but trying to back out last minute is not cool, its actually bad business practice.

put it easy terms, autozone sells brakepads from duralast. they warranty it although they are only the middle man. because they ARE the middle man.
so with that said, u woulda lost 250, gotten flamed, but u woulda saved face and had a comeback that said, i gave him his money back, . the customer service goes alot further than trying to figre **** out and not take responsibility
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and if ur friends not an active member, then u shouldnt be selling **** for him, because look what happens
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
So you're saying you'd give someone a refund if you're friend had asked you to ONLY put something up for sale for him since he isn't an active forum member?

is that what you're implying?
Implying? I don't think I could have made my statement any clearer. There was no hidden implication.

Yes, if I brokered the deal then that's what I'd do. I'd also expect my friend to be a stand-up guy too and reimburse me. If he didn't then I just learned he's not someone I want to be friends with anyway.

Maybe if your friend really was a stand-up guy he would have taken the time to become an active forum member here and sell it himself instead of conning you into selling it for him.

Your actions in this deal say you won't stand behind a deal you made. If you EVER hope to sell on this forum again you will make this right and hope it restores your reputation - which right now is pretty much in the toilet.
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
So you're saying you'd give someone a refund if you're friend had asked you to ONLY put something up for sale for him since he isn't an active forum member?

is that what you're implying?
That's exactly what you should be doing! I once refunded a guy for a sale that I wasn't even involved with because I let my friend use my paypal account for the transaction. Guess what? My friend AND the buyer were honest enough that I got my money back and the buyer got his part. If you and your friend deserve the good reputations that you think you have, this would've been handled the same way. It's just the right thing to do.

The fact that you don't understand this is what's killing your reputation.
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We should start calling him "Shady Eddie" so he can live up with his shady reputation.
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
Look, to all, I have no reason to lie. I wouldnt let my rep go down for $250 but apparently it is.
You keep saying that you "wont let your rep go down"....but its only talk. I can count several times when you actually said you were going to make this right--and thats all you did, talk about it. You dont have any business telling us you have no reason to lie when you just tried to make excuses for breaking forum rules! THAT is not an honest way to do things--and THAT is exactly what you have done....."but you have no reason to lie"....


Mel, You put the motor in maybe 3 or 4 days after you picked it up. You called me (very excited I might add) with the motor running and put the phone to it so I can hear. I heard it and you said, "it runs great! Thanks for your help!". The 3 days later you call to tell me it had a blown oil seal
He already fully explained this....and yet here you are, still trying to find something to build a case on for your reputation. Sorry, chap--it doesnt work that way.

The motor sat for over a week. During this time I was talking to Sench about why it would be blown, refund, plan of action, etc. Instead of handling **** yourselves you immediately came looking for me. You knew it was HIS motor and I simply posted it. You have his #, you met with him originally and you bargained prices with him, you stood face to face inspecting it yourself and you knew it was his deal. So what if I sold it. You initially dealt with him and agreed to make the sale final. Why would you drag me into this???? You knew it was all HIM. You just got mad that he wouldn't refund you and started dragging my name through the mud.
NO, WRONG. Dont even THINK about trying to pull this crap. Look at the PM's chief--you acted as the middle man in the sale and YOU PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION afterwards too. When Mel PM'ed you, your EXACT reply was that YOU would call your friend. If you didnt want to handle it, you should have spoken up right then and there. But you didnt--you put yourself in this role. Dont whine about it now like Mel did it to you. What was that again about "no reason to lie"??? You sure aint being honest at this point.....

You tore the motor down based on a hunch that I wouldn't pay you??? WTF!?
dude--you TOLD HIM that you were "only the middle man" before he tore it down. We already covered this ground--hows about you catch up to the rest of us here? It wasnt a "hunch"--you told him in your own words that you werent gonna do anything!

You dont know me. I've never ripped a person off in my life! I still haven't.
Stop right there. You owe this guy money for this engine. You also owe someone else money for another engine. And yet youre on here shopping for parts when both of these debts are still not paid?? Sorry jack, no dice. Man up or go find yourself a new place to sell your parts. "being an honest guy" and "not ripping people off" means youre paying them back what you owe them BEFORE youre out shopping for upgrades for your own car!

Mel, YOU need to man up and call Sench. He called you yesterday and left a message requesting that you call him to sort things out. Have you??? Sench already told me to just leave things alone and that you 2 will be the ones disputing this. I know the rules say not to sell for anyone else but truth is that most of us have done it at one point or another. This, to me, is a ridiculous adventure that I dont plan on letting ruin my day.
Way wrong answer. You dont get to decide that "everyone's doing it" should be acceptable instead of following forum rules. You agreed to abide by them when you signed up--the fact that you cannot do so and then all you do is make BS excuses for not following the rules shows plenty about how "honest" you really are.


This has gone far enough.
YES, it HAS. Either you fix these two deals where you owe people money or you can simply look for a new place to buy and sell parts. But HEY--no worries!!! Your "good, trustworthy friend Sench" stands ready to handle all your RX7 parts needs, and with honesty!


Mel, call Sench, deal with him. he's more than glad to talk to you about anything as long as your conversations with him dont end in, "you better watch your back"
Even if that were the case, I can guarantee you that such a statement only came AFTER Sench said that he would not refund Mel's money. Seriously--do you REALLY expect us to believe that Sench said "sure, let's work out a way to get you refunded" and Mel replied with threats of violence?? Think about it. While youre thinking about it--think also about "more than glad" Sench was to resolve this matter when he refused to give Mel his money back from the get-go. Besides, if you really can vouch for Sench so much, why cant you refund Mel and then trust Sench to pay YOU back? CLEARLY, you dont even trust the guy if it means YOUR money is on the line...and yet you are working this hard to sell that concept to us??


PS: WTF does my ad about wanting a PFC have to do with anything???
I'm so glad you asked--it has plenty to do. For starters, you sold two engines on this forum that both were bad. You advertised both of them as being good. You owe two people money. And rather than take care of even just the one you have repeatedly claimed you were gonna take care of, you STILL leave these guys hanging and then try to buy parts when you have money?

Let me make this clear as possible--I had better not find out that youre buying parts here when you still owe these guys their refunds. Whether you understand it or not, your actions in this sale are illegal. He CAN press charges against you....false advertising is akin to fraud, son. There's a crime for that. YOU advertised this for sale. YOU brought it to this forum. YOU. That makes YOU responsible for whatever happens as a result. YOU were willing to accept that when it came time to post the motor for sale. YOU were willing to accept that when it came time for someone to pay for the motor. But YOU cant seem to accept it now. Man, why didnt you just tell your "trustworthy friend" Sench to start his own account? The guy goes to competitions quite often, he clearly can afford teh intarwebs if he can do that, and its free to join here!

But you are right--this has gone on long enough. So FIX IT. OR, dont come here to buy and sell parts anymore. Your choice. Be sure to let me know what you choose. I approached you in good faith privately about this matter.....and you told me how much you understood. But your posts in public are the complete opposite.....you seem to have an identity crisis going on with how differently you discuss this sale privately vs. in this thread. I highly suggest that you get it straightened out.....quick, fast, and in a hurry. And I dont want to see even one more excuse--the least you could do is stop making every excuse in the book, trying to get out of your responsibility.
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Guys "our age" have learned to respect others especially our elders! I've read all the posts by Eddie thinking this kid might be responsible for his actions and settle up but all I see is someone going around in circles. Don't believe me? Go back and read what you have written! No, I don't know you and I know, you don't give a $hit. Good. All I know is Wacky seems to be a decent guy based on my dealings with him. If I were in your shoes, I would have given him, or any other buyer for that matter, their money back as soon as they notified me. Is $250 worth all this?? I've been lucky and have dealt with some really good people here (of which most are half my age!). I'm old, I finally own my first rotary, and you need to grow up. Don't be like my 12 yo and have to get in the last word-just take care of business and end this!
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Kinda curious how a guy with 12,000+ posts that buys and sells like crazy only has 2 iTrader ratings

I've yet to hit 1,000 and I have 7 good ones and then the one stupid one


Anyway. yeah I've made my decision. i will clear my name. Delete my account and start a new one you might think? No.
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More bullsh*t from "Shady Eddie"...

Man up, refund the money. Show you have a pair.
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Originally Posted by habu2
More bullsh*t from "Shady Eddie"...

Man up, refund the money. Show you have a pair.
Why dont you just let us handle it and keep you 2 cents in your pocket. KThxBye
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Got a pm from eddie regarding the payment. so i hope it works out ok.
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so his plan was to buy ANOTHER motor just so he can scam you out of his $250 refund?

I mean really, did you even read what you typed?
OH my goodness, I am literally laughing my *** out!

Originally Posted by wackyracer
Got a pm from eddie regarding the payment. so i hope it works out ok.
I am happy for you Wacko. I hope it works out as well. This should have been resolved when the problem arised.

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Originally Posted by edbltx7
Kinda curious how a guy with 12,000+ posts that buys and sells like crazy only has 2 iTrader ratings

I've yet to hit 1,000 and I have 7 good ones and then the one stupid one


Anyway. yeah I've made my decision. i will clear my name. Delete my account and start a new one you might think? No.

Are you freakin serious dude?

WTF does an Itrader score have to do with it, that has been around a couple months maybe?

I am sure if itrade has been around as long as wacky (2001) then he would have more than two points, hell half the time people probably don't even think about that...

And 2 good points makes a person more reliable ( TO ME ) than someone with 100 good points with 1 bad point that is unresolved

but hopefully the PM you sent will include a serious resolution...
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
Kinda curious how a guy with 12,000+ posts that buys and sells like crazy only has 2 iTrader ratings

I've yet to hit 1,000 and I have 7 good ones and then the one stupid one


Anyway. yeah I've made my decision. i will clear my name. Delete my account and start a new one you might think? No.
And this is my last warning to you--if you dont knock off this ridiculous crap right now you wont have a name on this forum left to clear. STICK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND--come on now, itrader scores?? What in the world is your malfunction? I have successfully sold an RX7 on here, plus a half dozen other parts with no issues, and I have bought dozens of parts and other items from here over the years. And I dont have any itrader score at all....SO WHAT? Once again, youre trying desperately to distract from cold hard facts by using things that are 100% irrelevant. MOVE IT ALONG OR MOVE ALONG YOURSELF--THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING.

Can ya hear me now?

Why dont you just let us handle it and keep you 2 cents in your pocket. KThxBye
You dont need anyone to "let you handle it"--you just need to man up and handle it. Dont even waste my time laying out yet one more excuse why you have not done so yet with this latest post. Perhaps you should wise up to the fact that if you only would have handled this already, no one would be on your case about it!
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why are you harassing me mod?

I already have something worked out with Mel. That is why on my last post I said I'm done with it and I wasnt gonna delete my account and start a new one.

Now I feel like I did something wrong to you. I dont like being talked down to. I made payment arrangements today.
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Ban him already?
Jesus. He is obviously not doing much, if anything.

@eddie, Everytime you post about keeping your rep, you dig it's hole a little deeper. If you had refunded $250 at the beginning, you'd be fine. It's unfortunate than it's come so far, yet it hasn't moved.

Why dont you just let us handle it and keep you 2 cents in your pocket. KThxBye
Because you aren't handling it. Stating that you are doesn't make it so.

GL wacky. If it doesn't work out I'd take him to court. I'm sure the mods would support you.(not to mention all the documents you have).

"shady eddie".... Takes off the edge that he's got 2 unsolved disputes.
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Originally Posted by edbltx7
why are you harassing me mod?
ME harassing YOU?

Look, jack, this is my job here. I am responsible for handling this section among others, and when someone backs out of handling their responsibilities, I am not going to sit here, hold your hand, and speak softly. I already gave you a chance with politeness, and you know it. But then, you shrug off breaking forum rules, make every excuse in the book why you shouldnt have to man up, and after all of that you actually have the stones to ask me that?

HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS OR BE GONE. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

Is that clear enough? I could always rent out a billboard if you need more of a hint.

I already have something worked out with Mel. That is why on my last post I said I'm done with it and I wasnt gonna delete my account and start a new one.
Ok, look, dont play me for a fool. What do I mean by that, exactly? Simple--if I went back and counted, I would find multiple times in multiple threads where you already promised to handle this. Now, after all that and plenty of BS excuses, we are still waiting for money to hit his hands. So, until it does, this is nothing more to me than just one more time you promised to fix this......ya get my drift?

Then again, you cannot even follow a basic forum rule.....so I guess I shouldnt be too surprised that you dropped the ball with me yet again. You see, I asked you for something simple: Come up with a solution and inform me of the details. I didnt post that for my health when I said this:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...9&postcount=35

So, before next Tuesday rolls around, I want to see a plan for this. I want to see it either posted in this thread or PM'ed to me. It needs to be a plan that both you and Mel agree upon. And it needs to be more feasible than just "I'll try to pay him back whenever I can".
And once more, you couldnt even have enough basic respect to work with me in resolving something that I probably should have just had you banned over. I came in here with the attitude to WORK WITH YOU and youre so damn wrapped up in your pathetic excuses that you cant even follow a simple direction like that! that should tell you something about why people are approaching you in this thread the way they are....

Now I feel like I did something wrong to you. I dont like being talked down to. I made payment arrangements today.
Well, I dont like being ignored myself. But since you dont seem to give a damn either way, please DO enlighten us as to exactly why I should bend in half backwards for you? As it stands right now you have two people that you owe refunds to....instead of paying them, you slander one of them, you're instead shopping for performance upgrades for your own car, and to top it all off you cant follow a simple forum rule OR a simple direction from me. PLEASE, OH PLEASE, tell me what exactly I owe you at this point????


Ban him already?
Jesus. He is obviously not doing much, if anything.
Righty, my goal is to resolve the issue, not just to ban someone that cannot pay attention. Ban someone and they usually blow off the person they owe money to. Trust me when I tell you, this isnt my first rodeo....
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Ban him already?
Jesus. He is obviously not doing much, if anything.

@eddie, Everytime you post about keeping your rep, you dig it's hole a little deeper. If you had refunded $250 at the beginning, you'd be fine. It's unfortunate than it's come so far, yet it hasn't moved.


Because you aren't handling it. Stating that you are doesn't make it so.

GL wacky. If it doesn't work out I'd take him to court. I'm sure the mods would support you.(not to mention all the documents you have).

"shady eddie".... Takes off the edge that he's got 2 unsolved disputes.
Please let this thread be between the parties involved. Everything you have said has been said a million times already.
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Old 05-29-09, 11:30 PM
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Eddie,


Just so you know. Roller is my Sergeant at Arms so to speak regarding these issues. His role is to get the job done.

He has devoted countless hours in helping members resolve their issues and if he can't afford to coddle you in the process.

The bottom line is that you got involved in a bad situation. Your friend put you there and now you just have to deal with it, make it right and move on.

We generally are not remembered for our words but for our actions just a people don't generally remember the good experiences they had involving the buying process, but they sure do remember the bad ones. They also are more likely to tell 7 friends that will in turn tell 7 more. You get what I am saying here?


For the time being your "Classified" privileges are suspended. Take care of this and I'll reinstate them but members will still see this thread.

In regards to your statement about creating a "New" account. It is against the rules. Don't think that we would not find out if you did as I eventually find them all. :-)
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How I wish this didnt happen. Mel and Eddie to ME, are both great people. Im confident that this issue will be settled. Please yall, just keep it cool and let the mods coordinate things as they should.
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dont waste my time Eddie. My newphew and I waited at Costo for almost 1 hr yesterday as we discussed. No more arrangement for you.
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yup... didn't even get a call from eddie that he was on his way or running late
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