Recently my engine in my 87 TII went out so im looking for a rebuild. I decided to have one done by either mazdatrix or atkins for rebuild. I was reading up on their websites and it seems like the only main difference is that atkins uses 3mm apex seals in their rebuilt turbo engines.

im going to just go with most base one. I don't really plan on making any big numbers, just fun weekend car.

Anybody have any experience with either of these companies and have gotten an engine from them. Hows the engine doing now or how long did it last?

Any advantage to the atkin 3mm seals?

 

atkins doesnt put 3mm apex seals in all their engines...it costs extra.

 

Honestly, I'd go for a Rotary Resurrection rebuild

I know that might get me in trouble, but they do good work, and are very reasonably priced

 

Rotary Resurrection does good work.

I have personally been to the Mazdatrix shop in Signal Hill CA (was out there on vacation) and there are some knowledgeable guys there. They are going to use all OEM parts I imagine. Many people prefer OEM seals to Atkins seals, although they are more expensive.

 

I can not recommend Rotary Resurrection any longer, but if you are in the Bay area, Ben (Karack on this board) does exceptional work, and he is located just outside Sacramento.

If it was not Ben I would also look at Rob at Pineapple Racing and Banzai-Racing here on this board.

 

I highly recommend Karack as well. Does great work, and one of the only people I would trust working on my car.

 

o_O what happened with Rotary Resurrection?

 

Yeah same with the other okie. What is wrong with Rotary Resurrection?

 

We have engines and complete cars shipped to us from Cali all the time for rebuild, http://www.banzai-racing.com/engine_rebuild_main.htm

 

nothing.

 

It's a very very very long, old, story. Just don't worry about it haha

 

You can either build an engine on a budget or you can build it properly. That's all I'm going to say.

 

Owners of this forum dislike Rotary Resurrection. ALong with many moderators.
Political type BS if you ask me.

But there is nothing wrong with Rotary Resurrection's engines. IM sure they are just as good as the rest of the people. Besides Rotary Resurrection gives good warranties. For two years i think. SO it cant be bad.

And icemark. Thats messed up your talking smack about other pplz bussiness.(how would you like that to happen to you?)

 

nothing you can do about it.

rotary resurrection 100%

 

I don't believe he talked smack. He said he can no longer recommend them. THat is not the same as saying he does crappy work, or bad deals, or anything else. He could have a bunch of reasons not to recommend somebody.

I think most people think Kevin Landers (rotary resurrection (sp)) does a great job... ...for the money. If you want more he will do more. If you want your motor done quickly and inexpensively, that is what he will do.

Resume thread.

 

^ +1 on that

He did my rebuild at a very good price. My car runs great!

 

Why not go with a Mazda reman engine?

 

He wasn't talking smack, he simply said he could no longer recommend. I don't see where he talked 'smack'.

 

A mazda reman (if you could find an FC reman) is MUCH more expensive then a rebuild.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Atkins apex seals. Alot of guys use them and have no issues - but my personal experience was BAD with them. They simply chunked after 300kms of breakin driving and did so ***IN VACCUM*** and I got no support after the failure. OEM seals have never done that in my subsequent rebuilds.

Personally, as long as you find a reputable builder you're fine. On the failure of my atkins seals, I luckily had a very supportive shop in Canada here who rebuilt it for me and they helped me piece it back together after the failure despite atkins not helping on the seal failure (which to be fair there are many variables so I don't hold it against them, but can't openly recomend the seals as my experience was subpar) So as long as whoever does it isn't a fly-by-night operation and stands behidn their work you have no worries.

 

Rotary Resurrection.... So they do some things that the rotary "gods" might not approve of, but I don't hear of engines form them cacking apex seals up left and right or having anything but the typical rotary problems....

 

I had my engine built by Kevin a while back, It's got around 10k on it now, and aside for the break in period, I thrash it a bit. I redline at least once a day, keep up the oil changes, and fluids, and it pulls really strong and smooth.

I mean, $1200 and 3 weeks of your time gets you a good reliable engine.

Just like all rotary engines, take care of them, keep the oil fresh, and don't overheat them, they will last a good while

 

Banzai Racing is top notch! I wouldn't recommend Atkins to my enemies.

 

Thought they could be purchased through Mazda? Not anymore?
Years ago they were $1900 including the gasket set and a return core. It seems that the Mazdatrix rebuilds are more, at least from their website.

 

Not at all. For years I recommended Kevin as an engine builder; but, there is a car sitting at a buddies house right now with one of his engines in it. I, no longer recommend him and will leave it at that. I agree completely with rotarygod on engine builders.

And I do recommend Banzai-Racing, Pineapple, and Karack.

#1, They don't lie or make stuff up about other shops and people, and #2 Each and everyone of them have built motors that I have personally seen and #3 I would trust them to build a motor for me if I was too busy to do so myself and know without any doubts that there were no short cuts or anything questionable about their work and that it would start and run perfect the first time and the 1000th time.

This makes them recommended. It has nothing to do with politics or who owns this board. Only a child that only sees what he wants; would insinuate that.

Funny how Kevin lies and talks **** like that every day, yet you have the ***** to lecture me?

 

I'm not trying to stir **** and make things worse, but I do believe there should be a time and place for this discussion. I have read about it so much that I don't care to read more.

I think that was a simple misunderstanding, which is what happens alot on forums. Somehow just reading something doesn't ever really do justice as to what the person means.

So please everyone get along, and no one is talking **** about anyone, so chill :]